henrychinaski 2 Posted July 16, 2016 Picked up my Tudor Ranger the other day to wear it, gave it a shake and the rotor was loose..like not just a bit loose - free inside the case! I've had an issue in the past with it becoming loose and tightened up the screw not long ago so it seemed weird to have happened again...anyway, off goes the case back again and it seems like part of the screw thread has snapped off. Oh dear! When I try to manually wind it spins back the other way super fast and doesn't engage or seem to wind the mainspring. So, is it just screwed (mind the pun!) and I should just shell out for a new movement or do you think it's salvageable? I'm a newbie when it comes to the tech side of watches but have a decent toolkit and a reasonably steady hand. Pics to follow Thanks for your advice HC Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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henrychinaski 2 Posted July 16, 2016 Also, any tips to remove the dial? I can't seem to find the hooks or any screws for feet. TIA HC Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markeym3 2 Posted July 16, 2016 I thought there was a wee spring that sat against the one of the winding gears to stop the watch unwinding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadPickle 2,741 Posted July 16, 2016 That little hook in the 2nd pic 2nd post is holding the dial on, spin it round with a screwdriver to release the dial, there's another at the other side too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakethemouse 0 Posted July 16, 2016 exactly what pickled said to remove the dial. I circled your pic in case you can't see it below: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenTLe 1,501 Posted July 16, 2016 Personally I would simply search for an autowind bridge (used gen eta) on the bay. Last one I got was like 10$ shipped (complete with gears and plate under). Cleaned and properly lubed and it is working perfectly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenTLe 1,501 Posted July 16, 2016 Mate look here: http://m.ebay.it/itm/ETA-2836-2-25-jewels-Swiss-automatic-device-116253-/111987784786?nav=SEARCH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genius 281 Posted July 16, 2016 Personally I would simply search for an autowind bridge (used gen eta) on the bay.Last one I got was like 10$ shipped (complete with gears and plate under). Cleaned and properly lubed and it is working perfectly. Exactly what I was going to suggest, cheap and easy to replace, no need to take the movement out of the case and risk scratching the dial Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henrychinaski 2 Posted July 17, 2016 Thank you all for all the info and tips! So do you think the issue with the winding is due to the auto wind bridge or could it be something else? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenTLe 1,501 Posted July 17, 2016 If the click works well then it is just a matter of stiff reverse gears (those gears with holes placed where there is written "rubies" on the autowind bridge). Just remove the autowind plate (the 2 black screws are all you need to unscrew) and check if the manual wind works well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henrychinaski 2 Posted July 18, 2016 If the click works well then it is just a matter of stiff reverse gears (those gears with holes placed where there is written "rubies" on the autowind bridge). Just remove the autowind plate (the 2 black screws are all you need to unscrew) and check if the manual wind works well. Awesome, thank you! Autowind ordered Hopefully we can get her back on the road in no time! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henrychinaski 2 Posted July 18, 2016 That little hook in the 2nd pic 2nd post is holding the dial on, spin it round with a screwdriver to release the dial, there's another at the other side too exactly what pickled said to remove the dial. I circled your pic in case you can't see it below: Thank you Gents! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henrychinaski 2 Posted July 18, 2016 Update: Auto bridge removed and there are still a few issues. Hopefully some light can be shed! It's seems the silver gear (don't know the name for it, sorry) might be part of the issue. The screw seems loose, but doesn't really want to tighten up at all. I've removed it entirely and put it back on but it's still the same. When I manually wind there's resistance but it immediately springs back the other way as soon as I release the crown. Is this a keyless issue? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
black263 228 Posted July 18, 2016 I am no expert, but where is the "click" on this movement? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ROLIE 46 Posted July 18, 2016 As black said where is the click as its hard from pic to see if its there. Also under the large silver wheel there is a small spring that keeps tendion on the click , is it still there or has it snapped , you would need to check these parts first and the eta web site would help you out alot as well Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henrychinaski 2 Posted July 18, 2016 Didn't see a small spring under the large silver wheel and there is no 'click' sound at all when winding. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
black263 228 Posted July 18, 2016 That's the first thing that needs addressing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenTLe 1,501 Posted July 18, 2016 Exactly. And beware that the large screw is a reverse one: to tight it you must turn it counterclockwise! These are the click parts (the spring is nearly invisible if it flyes away...): This is how they are mounted (on a very dirty movement): Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genius 281 Posted July 18, 2016 Brand new genuine swiss AAA movement just serviced from factory Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenTLe 1,501 Posted July 18, 2016 Brand new genuine swiss AAA movement just serviced from factory Lol Random pic from the web The other I found was even worse: AAAAAAAA++++++++ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henrychinaski 2 Posted July 18, 2016 Righto, well it seems we do have a problem! The click parts aren't there it seems. Oh dear... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenTLe 1,501 Posted July 18, 2016 Righto, well it seems we do have a problem! The click parts aren't there it seems. Oh dear... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk http://www.ebay.it/itm/112052669466 Click, spring and keyless as bonus check the pic if they are good enough because I have seen it from a mobile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henrychinaski 2 Posted July 19, 2016 Righto, well it seems we do have a problem! The click parts aren't there it seems. Oh dear... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk http://www.ebay.it/itm/112052669466 Click, spring and keyless as bonus check the pic if they are good enough because I have seen it from a mobile. Thanks mate, parts are on their way - this will test me I think but I'm keen to learn! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henrychinaski 2 Posted July 21, 2016 Thinking about just dropping an Gen ETA in it and tinkering with the clone to get it back up and running. I love the Ranger and it's a keeper in my eyes so why not.. Will an gen ETA 2824-2 just drop in? Same pinion size for the hands? How does this one look? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/122040391672?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
