Piloten 332 Posted November 15, 2017 So, on a totally non-watch related purchase from Europe, I feel like I need to post some observations. No, this is not aimed at anyone here. Yes, this ONLY applies to sending to Canada but one of these thoughts talks about that. Mods, if it just comes across as a rant or not useful, pop it into off topic or shitcan it. Don't care. 'Cause I am ranting 1) Once a deal has been struck, communicate with the buyer as to how the BUYER wants it sent. If it costs more to do it that way, then negotiate. This --insert item here-- no longer belongs to you. Subset to this, certain shipping methods are of no use to the buyer, depending on country. Example, sending something "registered" to Canada only costs money and does not add any value, as Canada Post does NOT track "registered" items. 2) Once a deal is satisfactorily completed, PUT THE GODDAMNED THING IN TO SHIPPING. This --insert item here-- no longer belongs to you. Two weeks of waiting and hearing "ooh, family emergency, ooohhh, work emergency" later, I finally had to get another guy I know in the same country to drop in on the seller and advise him to get off his ass. 3) Check the address before it is sent and TAKE A FUCKING PICTURE of the addressed package AND CONFIRM IT WITH THE SELLER BEFORE sending. Text, Email, Dropbox, Intagram, etc etc etc. NO excuse that is too hard to do. 4) Take another picture of the addressed and paid/receipted item before it goes into the system There, how fucking hard was that? Pretty hard, if you go by the experiences I have had the last year. There, do I feel better? Not fucking likely. -J Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
onzenuub 305 Posted November 15, 2017 Item still for sale? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadPickle 2,738 Posted November 15, 2017 payment sent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCRich 13,743 Posted November 15, 2017 I know the difficulties you had. Sorry you had to go through that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piloten 332 Posted November 15, 2017 Over on . . . another . . . forum, there were repeated threads and accusations flying because some guys did not get off their arses for months sometimes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KarmaToBurn 1,419 Posted November 15, 2017 5) Ship that shit out IN A BOX. Don't take any risks by throwing it into one of those bubble envelopes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jibuti 958 Posted November 15, 2017 GLWS-if you receive it at all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUSH2112 11 Posted November 15, 2017 If you want it shipped a certain way then you the buyer needs to make that clear BEFORE the deal is made since it might cost more. Any expected delay should be made clear when buyer asks for payment instructions. Not every country observes the same holidays. I make the shipping label and pay the freight at once so I’m not sending you a pic for your approval. It’s already paid. Buyer is responsible for making the address clear when you agree on price and payment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piloten 332 Posted November 15, 2017 And that right there is exactly the attitude that I'm talking about. The genius that kicked this off had that exact attitude, except the address I sent him, he was too lazy to copy the goddamned thing down to the end. Copied the box number and the post office name, then skipped city, province, postal code and decided on his own hook to put USA instead of Canada. The seller IS responsible for proving they sent it to the right fucking place and when I ask for "tracked", it is NOT ok to decide on your own to substitute "registered" and on and on and on. If you're too lazy or arrogant to snap a pic before it's posted, you are causing the problem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUSH2112 11 Posted November 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, Piloten said: And that right there is exactly the attitude that I'm talking about. The genius that kicked this off had that exact attitude, except the address I sent him, he was too lazy to copy the goddamned thing down to the end. Copied the box number and the post office name, then skipped city, province, postal code and decided on his own hook to put USA instead of Canada. The seller IS responsible for proving they sent it to the right fucking place and when I ask for "tracked", it is NOT ok to decide on your own to substitute "registered" and on and on and on. If you're too lazy or arrogant to snap a pic before it's posted, you are causing the problem Fortunately I’ve never written it down wrong, entered it wrong or had an issue. If it’s entered EXACTLY the way the buyer requested and it’s wrong it’s on the buyer is my point. No amount of photos is going to correct that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xpletiv 16 Posted November 16, 2017 No, but it covers your ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piloten 332 Posted November 16, 2017 If that is what you truly believe, then there is no point in pointing out how that comes across. I have certainly made mistakes in my life, so I personally feel due diligence is not out of the question when I have accepted someone's money. But that's just me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paccbet 7,176 Posted November 16, 2017 Yea! Tell em J!! Fucking hate these people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narikaa 129 Posted November 16, 2017 Sort everything out before the deal is done and money changes hands. So simple (and a set in stone way of life for great swathes of the planet) (Why is it a western idiosyncrasy to start inventing questions etc AFTER the 'kin thing has shipped?) Wrong address FFS that's why God gave us copy/paste function and printers What you forward is exactly where it goes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUSH2112 11 Posted November 16, 2017 4 hours ago, narikaa said: Sort everything out before the deal is done and money changes hands. So simple (and a set in stone way of life for great swathes of the planet) (Why is it a western idiosyncrasy to start inventing questions etc AFTER the 'kin thing has shipped?) Wrong address FFS that's why God gave us copy/paste function and printers What you forward is exactly where it goes Basically the point I was making but, as usual, Reg has a unique way of cutting through the bullshit and breaking it down to the bottom line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rx4Time 1,472 Posted November 16, 2017 I always copy and paste exactly what is sent for a shipping address. I send a series of pictures showing the packing process and shipping label, always use a box and always trackable shipping period. I'll never understand people using a bubble mailer. The cost difference is minimal. since I copy and paste, I don't typically verify I've entered the address correctly but since it's tracked, I can request a diversion here in the US back to me or a different address if needed.... thankfully never needed so far. Just curious, what was being shipped? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piloten 332 Posted November 16, 2017 It is a replacement favourite toy for my dying cat. I wanted to do something to make him happier as his clock runs out. Rich here very generously tried to send some and they vanished. This other clown was paid up front and as above, wrote down the po box number and post office name, then skipped city, province and postal code and wrote USA down instead of Canada. And changed tracked to registered. It went to Inglewood California (USPS tracks registered but canada post does not) and is now on its way back to Europe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piloten 332 Posted November 16, 2017 20 hours ago, RUSH2112 said: Fortunately I’ve never written it down wrong, entered it wrong or had an issue. If it’s entered EXACTLY the way the buyer requested and it’s wrong it’s on the buyer is my point. No amount of photos is going to correct that. Uh, yes, it will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUSH2112 11 Posted November 16, 2017 53 minutes ago, Piloten said: Uh, yes, it will. You’re a bit of an infant when someone doesn’t agree with you, huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piloten 332 Posted November 16, 2017 No, you're being a bit obtuse, so I will lay it out for you, so even an ignorant cunt like you grasps what is screamingly obvious to everyone else over the age of 6 People (excepting you, apparently) make mistakes If someone has made a mistake typing in an address, it costs you nothing to perform a single, cost-free step to ensure what now belongs to someone else gets where it's going. Your entire attitude clearly says "thanks for your money and fuck you if you think I'm going to do anything at all to help ensure what no longer belongs to me gets to you" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xpletiv 16 Posted November 17, 2017 1 more time: No amount of photos will make the idiot smarter, but it will cover your ass from the idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jibuti 958 Posted November 19, 2017 dying cat and amount of time left is actually most important here, J. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piloten 332 Posted November 20, 2017 20 hours ago, jibuti said: dying cat and amount of time left is actually most important here, J. That is what is on my mind. If it was something as meaningless as a watch I would not care Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piloten 332 Posted November 26, 2017 Well, the outcome is: It went back to europe, my friend there picked it up and put it in a courier to me. Done is done. Showed up today. Max is happy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
