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The communication of messages is slow between me and this pawnbroker in Montreal.

But I had gotten knowledge of a "vintage Heuer Sub" sitting in their shop.

I contacted the shop about it and they confirmed they have it.

But here is the enigma:  they claim its a replica.

well, its a first for  me in this 15 year hobby:  

Do replicas of Heuer Subs exist?

Never seen one.

In the photo they provided me, you can see the watch looks waaay too "new" to be a gen but, then this makes it a first for me to see a Heuer rep.product_Image.jpg

 

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Bjorns

Never heard of a heuer sub rep at least not this model but are the hands not weird?

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ElvisFreak

yes, the hands are not right....

Of course, being in this rep hobby makes us not experts on what is possible out there...

Just never thought a vintage Heuer  rep would ever make it out of China factories

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FL13

Go down and give them 50 bucks for it and let us know

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TheTinMan

I don't remember seeing a Heuer specifically, but I do remember seeing that style on a street vendor's table on Yonge Street in Toronto, way back in the 90s.  All those shitty fakes ticked back in the day so that would be a very easy tell.  Have you gone in to see it?

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FL13

Elvis,

Seriously, go buy it for $50.... Not kidding.

 

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From Hodinkee:

 

"There is no hiding that the Heuer borrowed a lot its design from the legendary diver, from the Mercedes hands (although early examples also had cathedral hands) to the case's crown guards. "

It could be a REALLY EARLY Sub...

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FL13

Oh and Some of the Heuer Subs were quartz, so a TICK doesn't mean fake.... Specifically the Heuer Monin (quartz)

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roberto

What do they want for it?  Having said its a fake then.. would assume not very much.. as FL says.. get in there..

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ElvisFreak
31 minutes ago, FL13 said:

Elvis,

Seriously, go buy it for $50.... Not kidding.

 

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From Hodinkee:

 

"There is no hiding that the Heuer borrowed a lot its design from the legendary diver, from the Mercedes hands (although early examples also had cathedral hands) to the case's crown guards. "

It could be a REALLY EARLY Sub...

well...

they want more than 50.

they're asking way too much.

i submitted an offer of 250, thinking it might still be a gen...

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tabuktime

How does the law stand on the seeking of fakes in Canukistan?

Regardless, I concur with other posters. Bid low, buy it!

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FL13

IF they admitted its a replica, then why are they requesting so much? 

 

:lolcina:

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ElvisFreak
18 minutes ago, FL13 said:

IF they admitted its a replica, then why are they requesting so much? 

 

:lolcina:

well...

i see that somewhat often...

pawnshops will often overprice a fake as they dont know what we know

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Piccolo

They did make some of the Heuer 1000 with the monin hands.  Fully legit (quartz) ones seem to run between £400-£1200 depending on who has it and condition.

I've looked for one for a while, and while I don't think there are good reps there are definitely some real ones that have been massively polished and had parts changed. 

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ElvisFreak
10 minutes ago, Piccolo said:

They did make some of the Heuer 1000 with the monin hands.  Fully legit (quartz) ones seem to run between £400-£1200 depending on who has it and condition.

I've looked for one for a while, and while I don't think there are good reps there are definitely some real ones that have been massively polished and had parts changed. 

I get what you say...

Which leads me to think the shop may be mistakenly assuming its a rep...

I dont live in Montreal anymore and I cant see it for myself but I just phoned them and made a real time offer of $100 CND cash....if they accept, my brother will pick it up and ship it to me..

in the gen, is the movement stamp HEUER or just generic ETA stamping?

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Piccolo

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4120/4912969736_bdf8fd8f16_z.jpg

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ElvisFreak
9 minutes ago, Piccolo said:

have a read through this...

https://www.calibre11.com/tag-heuer-1000/

I hope you get it, at a hundred bucks it's worth a look at anyway!  

agree

 

if it's a fake, I would end up with an uncommon fake...

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iabounty

I agree with the uncommon fake.

 

 

 

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McGilli
57 minutes ago, ElvisFreak said:

agree

 

if it's a fake, I would end up with an uncommon fake...

And sometimes - having things that not many other people have can be fun. Added bonus to hunting and collecting anything really. Good luck!

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paccbet

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Mine is the L series so it has the ESA 963.114 movement instead of the 536.121 as opposed to the non L series shown above

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Rep or not it's still a cool watch. I had to get myself (gen) one from a colleague who bought this in the early 80s. 

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Natas78

Cool find! Let us know what happens :)

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Xpletiv

Yeah, it's been awhile, any update?

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ElvisFreak
On 29/12/2017 at 16:34, Xpletiv said:

Yeah, it's been awhile, any update?

well...after a ton of phone calls and lots of runaround from them, I gave up...

might try again though

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