sardonix 1 Posted January 9, 2014 I am considdering to get me a Blue dial Nautilus so lets see whats in the market. Also maybe helpfull for other members. The 3800 rep (gen is 37mm x 7.5mm) date hole wrong on all closed case back Asian 2824 42 mm x ? closed caseback $268 MBW version Swiss ETA 2824-2 42 mm x ? closed caseback $338 Lite Asian 4813 42 mm x 9mm closed caseback $168 The 5711A reps V3 Asian 2824 40 mm x 9.5mm open caseback correct shape rotor $348 Lite Asian 2638 41.5 x 11mm open caseback correct shape rotor $178 HBB V6 maker swiss sw 200 best edition 40 mm x 9.5mm open caseback correct shape rotor $520 $378 Asian movement And the GEN 5711 A Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kleen™ 45 Posted January 9, 2014 I have the blue HBB v.6 maker with SW200, and to be quite honest: I think I grossly overpaid for what I got and would not do it again - hence now ordering the 2838 Lite version (with a grey dial)... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingle 57 Posted January 9, 2014 I have the blue HBB v.6 maker with SW200, and to be quite honest: I think I grossly overpaid for what I got and would not do it again - hence now ordering the 2838 Lite version (with a grey dial)... pics? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kleen™ 45 Posted January 9, 2014 I have the blue HBB v.6 maker with SW200, and to be quite honest: I think I grossly overpaid for what I got and would not do it again - hence now ordering the 2838 Lite version (with a grey dial)... pics? - I don't have a photo-account (mainly because I don't have anything remotely aspiring to look like photo skills...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kleen™ 45 Posted January 9, 2014 If I were to spend the same amount of money again, i would rather go with 3xLite: One in each colour... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sardonix 1 Posted January 9, 2014 I have the blue HBB v.6 maker with SW200, and to be quite honest: I think I grossly overpaid for what I got and would not do it again - hence now ordering the 2838 Lite version (with a grey dial)... Thanks for your honest advice, i read the lite is not bad at all only the blue dial color is off. Personaly i like the asian 2824 $268 one i know its has flaws compared to the gen but i also like the closed case back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kleen™ 45 Posted January 9, 2014 I have the blue HBB v.6 maker with SW200, and to be quite honest: I think I grossly overpaid for what I got and would not do it again - hence now ordering the 2838 Lite version (with a grey dial)... Thanks for your honest advice, i read the lite is not bad at all only the blue dial color is off. Personaly i like the asian 2824 $268 one i know its has flaws compared to the gen but i also like the closed case back I don't know how good/bad the Lite version is, but that is exactly what I want to compare with the SW200. On the QCs (from MR) the Lite looks everybit as impressive as my USD500+ version. And the rotor actually looks better, as it has a real engraving instead of the bloody logo-sticker! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sardonix 1 Posted January 22, 2014 People told me the closed caseback was no longer available, but Ryan could source them. $268 plus shipping. Is in transit now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kleen™ 45 Posted January 22, 2014 That looks really sweet - even the dial, Sard. Only the thin lume-stripes on the hands springs to my eye... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prancuzas 0 Posted January 22, 2014 That looks really sweet - even the dial, Sard. Only the thin lume-stripes on the hands springs to my eye... And the gap between the bezel and datewheel.... I think the lite 2638 would be the best choice here quality/price-wise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sardonix 1 Posted January 22, 2014 Actualy this more a mishmash of the former 3700 and current 5711 But i like the closed back an thinner hands and markers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kleen™ 45 Posted January 22, 2014 That looks really sweet - even the dial, Sard. Only the thin lume-stripes on the hands springs to my eye... And the gap between the bezel and datewheel.... I think the lite 2638 would be the best choice here quality/price-wise. Right - don't know how I missed that? I have been staring myself blind on Naughty reps lately...:-) Can't wait to get the grey Lite in for a comparison with my blue SW200 - maybe some of the parts may even be compatible for a swap... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sardonix 1 Posted January 22, 2014 I knew the flaws before ordering this one guys And the Lite version blue was no option because the blue of that dial is very bad color. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kleen™ 45 Posted January 22, 2014 I knew the flaws before ordering this one guys And the Lite version blue was no option because the blue of that dial is very bad color. I second that and ordered the grey dial for the same reason. And just maybe the blue dial from my SW-200 can be swapped over...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DC_ 218 Posted January 22, 2014 People told me the closed caseback was no longer available, but Ryan could source them.$268 plus shipping. Is in transit now. You paid how much and what now?!? I hope this has got more than an A4813 inside, it looks like that version but I paid about $100 less when I bought mine!! DC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kleen™ 45 Posted January 22, 2014 And where did you get yours from, DC...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DC_ 218 Posted January 22, 2014 And where did you get yours from, DC...? Got it from WI. Just read Sard's earlier post though, his must be the Asian 2824 version, didn't realise there was a closed caseback version with a high beat movement!! I like it, as he says it is a mix of 3711 and 5711, in fact the dial itself aside from the DW has a more gen like texture!! DC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kleen™ 45 Posted January 22, 2014 The closed caseback is very appealing for obvious reasons (same goes for the AP Jumbo), although at the cost of a more incorrect dial (same goes for the AP Jumbo). I think I'm slowly migrating away from 'absolutely accuracy' in favour of 'feel' - at least I'm at a point where I like to contrast and compare different versions of the same watch. - e.g. the v6 Naughty @ 500+ is just taking the piss as an overall value proposition, once I had it on my wrist.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sardonix 1 Posted January 22, 2014 Yes mine is highbeat 2824 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kleen™ 45 Posted January 22, 2014 - so there was a very good reason for the price diff after-all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DC_ 218 Posted January 24, 2014 look at the markers close. there is much more white showing on the markers in the second pic look at the "2" on the date font as well Thanks, think date the number 2 looks better on the sw200 one. How much white on markers i am not convinced the sw200 is better? Toro pic with sw200 left gen right Just noticed this, I'm pretty certain that it's the other way round, looking at the dial pattern and end links I think the gen is the one on the left!!! DC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sardonix 1 Posted January 24, 2014 That gen watch Toro used think was not the 5711 or one with another dial. This is the dial i see on all the gens the ribbons are just like the rep. The right one is the gen on the Toro pics good to see on difference of bracelet pattern Gen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sardonix 1 Posted January 24, 2014 I mean the middle pieces of bracelet the size of them Gen Toro pic Sorry i can not express myself in perfect English. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kleen™ 45 Posted January 24, 2014 I find it deeply amusing that it is even being discussed, which one is the gen...:-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sardonix 1 Posted January 24, 2014 I also find amusing what dealers state. I tried to help a member to id his qc pics was it V3 or HBB V6 He contacted the dealer and the answer: Hi there, Dealer confirmed that V3 on his website is the one from HBB V6 factory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
