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Update 4th January 2016

 

New models included in PAM GUIDE:

 

PAM 571 LUMINOR 1950 Submersible 3 Days Aut.Ti. "Yachts Challenge"

- PAM 571 ZFac P-series w/P.9000 decorated A7750 NON-inverted Improved ZP9000-V2.5)

Good Super rep from ZFac

- PAM 571 KW-V6Fac P-series w/P.9000 decorated A7750 Inverted KP9000-V2

Very good Super rep from KW-V6 the best option for A7750 lovers. One of the best SUBs ever made

- PAM 571 KW-V6Fac P-series w/P.9000 decorated Seagull NON-inverted K9000-SeagullV2

Very good Super rep from KW-V6 the best option for Seagull lovers and cheaper. One of the best SUBs ever made

 

 

PAM 519 RADIOMIR 1940 Chronograph Red Gold - California dial

- PAM 519 GOOD Reps wrongly marked O-series w/ Venus ST-19

Just a nice rep without more ambitions

- PAM 519 KW-V6Fac Q-series w/Venus ST-19

Nice watch extremely well made but inaccurate. Only ambitions regarding finish and appearance. Just good as rep

 

 

PAM 607 Ceramic LUMINOR 1950 Submersible Dextro Automatic 3days

- PAM 607 KW-V6Fac P-series Ceramic w/decorated A7750 NON-inverted KP9000-V2

The same as PAM 508 but in Dextro version. Nice Super rep for A7750 lovers

- PAM 607 KW-V6Fac P-series Ceramic w/decorated KP9000-Seagull V2 NON-inverted

The same as PAM 508 but in Dextro version. The best Super rep option for Seagull lovers

 

 

PAM 604 “Firenze” Radiomir 3 Days

- PAM 604 ZFac R-series w/ P.3000 Clone4

Interesting rep with good solutions. The best current option, although it has some important flaws which downgrade the evaluation

- PAM 604 SF R-series w/ P.3000 Clone4

Good attempt from SF, unfortunately with some important and unacceptable flaws to get First Class rep evaluation

- PAM 604 KW-V6Fac R-series w/ P.3000 decorated A6497

Replica without ambitions with important flaws and inaccuracies together with good features. To be avoided

 

Enjoy the new reps

 

ALE

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ALE7575

Update 10 January 2016

 

New models included in PAM GUIDE:

 

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KW-V6Fac P-series w/ Asian 23J decorated like P.999

Nice attempt from KW. Unfortunately the slim thickness of the gen Manifattura P.999 movement and the display caseback don’t allow a better evaluation. Very well made rep but it has some important flaws. Anyway nice rep for small wrist and for women loving PAMs.

Enjoy the new reps

 

ALE

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donasp

Hi Ale!

 

how can find the PAM514 on good quality?

 

Thanks

 

Panos

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jmshen

Hi Ale!

 

how can find the PAM514 on good quality?

 

Thanks

 

Panos

 

You joined in 2012 but this is your first post? That's weird.

 

The 514 hasn't been repped yet to my knowledge. The 512, its little brother, has. People have been saying that it's only a matter of time because of the 512, but they've been saying that for awhile now, so who knows.

 

(Taking the time to learn how to research for yourself will help you in your searches immensely)

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donasp

Hi Ale!

 

how can find the PAM514 on good quality?

 

Thanks

 

Panos

 

You joined in 2012 but this is your first post? That's weird.

 

The 514 hasn't been repped yet to my knowledge. The 512, its little brother, has. People have been saying that it's only a matter of time because of the 512, but they've been saying that for awhile now, so who knows.

 

(Taking the time to learn how to research for yourself will help you in your searches immensely)

 

This is my first Post here because I write to the rwi forum.

 

I am interested for the 514 because is 47mm, the 512 is 42mm

 

Thanks

 

Panos

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black263

Hi Ale!

 

how can find the PAM514 on good quality?

 

Thanks

 

Panos

 

You joined in 2012 but this is your first post? That's weird.

 

The 514 hasn't been repped yet to my knowledge. The 512, its little brother, has. People have been saying that it's only a matter of time because of the 512, but they've been saying that for awhile now, so who knows.

 

(Taking the time to learn how to research for yourself will help you in your searches immensely)

 

This is my first Post here because I write to the rwi forum.

 

I am interested for the 514 because is 47mm, the 512 is 42mm

 

Thanks

 

Panos

You'll find we're weird here. For some unknown reason we like the first post by a member to appear in the New Members and Introductions thread. It's a bit like saying hello and shaking hands before you get down to business..

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RichardMiami

Hi Ale!

 

how can find the PAM514 on good quality?

 

Thanks

 

Panos

 

 

Panos

 

ALE does not sell watches. He is the expert on Panerai reps, but he is NOT a dealer.

 

Contact the Trusted Dealers for the watch you want.

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Statsman1

ALE, thank you so much for all the work you put into this! Exactly what I'm looking for!

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Simms

The amount of time and effort Ale and his contributors have put into this is mind boggling. I doubt anything else even comes close to the level of detail and thoroughness of this encyclopedia. We're lucky to have it!

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ALE7575

Thanks friends

I'm overwhelmed by your kind comments

This is really encouraging

 

ALE

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Update 12 March 2016

 

New models included in PAM GUIDE:

-All the new reps 2015 of PAM 535 LUMINOR 1950 GMT 3 Days Aut. ACCIAIO 42MM

All the new 2015 versions of the nice reps of the 42mm PAM 535

 

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-PAM 535 KW-V6Fac Q-series w/P.9001 decorated A7750 Inverted

Beautiful rep with nice dial but inaccurate case. Inverted decorated movement

 

-PAM 535 KW-V6Fac Q-series w/P.9001 decorated A7750 NON-Inverted Improved KP9001-V2.5

Beautiful rep with nice dial but inaccurate case. NON-inverted decorated movement. The best 2015 option

 

-PAM 535 ZFac Q-series w/P.9001 decorated A7750 NON-Inverted Improved ZP9001-V2.5

Another good option but still with inaccurate case

 

 

-All the new reps 2015 of PAM 605 LUMINOR 1950 3 Days “Firenze” Acciaio

 

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-PAM 605 SF Q-series w/ P.3000 Clone4

A rep without pretentions using parts of other watches. Non advisable purchase

 

-PAM 605 KW-V6Fac Q-series w/decorated A6497-2

Nicely made rep but with many inaccuracies, non Clone movement included

 

-PAM 605 ZFac Q-series w/ P.3000 Clone4

Nicely made, it has still some important flaws but with good P.3000 Clone4

movement. Not at all perfect but the best 2015 option available

 

Enjoy the new reps

 

ALE

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leinadhok

Morning @ALE7575, just want to thank you for this really helpful guide. Am looking forward to my first purchase.

 

Cheers!

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ALE7575

Update 2 April 2016

 

New model included in PAM GUIDE:

 

PAM 087 LUMINOR SUBMERSIBLE 1000m

 

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- PAM 087 F-series from H maker w/ A7750

New 2015 version of the nice reps of the PAM 087 fitted with A7750

This is a very interesting rep of a nice and eye-catching watch with Tritium type blue dial

H maker has done a very good job, despite some little flaws, because it is no easy to copy an old model with many hand finished parts and aged Tritium, blue and textured dial.

 

 

Enjoy the new rep

ALE

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Simms
Update 2 April 2016

 

New model included in PAM GUIDE:

 

PAM 087 LUMINOR SUBMERSIBLE 1000m

 

PAM087%20defi%20copiar_zpsj2tmubj2.jpg

 

 

- PAM 087 F-series from H maker w/ A7750

New 2015 version of the nice reps of the PAM 087 fitted with A7750

This is a very interesting rep of a nice and eye-catching watch with Tritium type blue dial

H maker has done a very good job, despite some little flaws, because it is no easy to copy an old model with many hand finished parts and aged Tritium, blue and textured dial.

 

 

Enjoy the new rep

ALE

 

 

Thanks for all this work, your guide is really unbelievable! I've spent countless hours reading and re-reading it, what a great community this is.

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ALE7575

Update 15 May 2016

 

New models included in PAM GUIDE:

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-PAM 285 LUMINOR SUBMERSIBLE 2500M - 47MM

Impressive rep from KW-V6Fac

Another new Super rep PAM SUB

 

Consult PAM GUIDE for more details:

"Reference PAM REVIEW-GUIDE" - Replica Search, Identification, Evaluation & Selection.

https://www.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/107365-quot-Reference-PAM-REVIEW-GUIDE-quot-Replica-Search-Identification-Evaluation-amp-Selection

 

 

Enjoy the new reps

 

ALE

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Steph Deux

Well, Ale, your simple bible has managed to take HOURS and HOURS out of my life. Ummmm, thank you?

 

I am continuously amazed by the thing. Such exacting work. Thank you again.

 

For the Excel spreadsheet (which I just found, MORE of my life gone, HA!) Have you considered adding a rating per watch? 1-5 or something? Or maybe just putting "Super Rep", "First Class", et cetera? Forgive me if that's been discussed before. I would be willing to donate some time if you wished.

 

Thanks again.

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ALE7575

Update 12 June 2016

 

New model included in PAM GUIDE:

 

PAM 064 LUMINOR SUBMERSIBLE 1000m

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- PAM 064 C-series from H maker w/ A7750

New 2016 rep version of the nice old PAM 064 C-series fitted with A7750

This is a very interesting rep of a nice and eye-catching watch with Tritium type lume

It is no easy to copy an old model with many hand finished parts and aged Tritium type lume.

H maker has done a very good job, but this new rep is based in the case and dial of PAM 087 and therefore has some added flaws over the own flaws of PAM 087.

The result is a nice watch with less accuracy than PAM 087 and some evident flaws on the front view

 

Enjoy the new rep

ALE

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ALE7575

Update 08 July 2016

 

New models included in PAM GUIDE:

2015 Versions of PAM 392 and PAM 393 42mm from KW-V6Fac and ZFac

 

PAM 392 - KW-V6Fac Q-series w/decorated Seagull NON-inverted KP9000-Seagull V2

 

PAM 392 - ZFac O-series w/decorated A7750 NON-inverted Improved ZP9000-V2.5

 

PAM 393 - KW-V6Fac Q-series w/decorated Seagull NON-inverted KP9000-Seagull V2

 

PAM 393 - ZFac O-series w/decorated A7750 NON-inverted Improved ZP9000-V2.5

 

All above commented reps are good attempts from the makers, but 42mm rep Luminor cases are much less accurate than 44mm. Besides, these reps have still some obvious flaws which don’t allow higher evaluations.

 

Enjoy the new reps

 

ALE

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Vjay33

Looking for a reliable and bullet proof PAM Luminor biggest case I can get with Miyota 9015 movement if there is such an animal. I have an authentic that I am trying to get a sister timepiece for so I can travel with the REP and save the condition of the AUTH.

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maron

thank you @Ale7575. An invaluable tool that I have just begun using the last two weeks as I search for my first PAM. Unfortunately at the moment I can't make use of it and I'm eager to place an order.

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Fojta

Hey, I was trying to look for some watch to the guide but it seems the site is down (some hack attacks). Is there any other way to look into the guide?

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elp

Patience .... the original site will be up soon.

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maron

Hey, I was trying to look for some watch to the guide but it seems the site is down (some hack attacks). Is there any other way to look into the guide?

 

 

i dont' think there is except for finding parts of it here and there on other forums. Luckily RWI will be back up today as I understand and we can resume our studies :)

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ALE7575

Complete PAM GUIDE is not available outside RWI

Anyway it is only few days it is down

Patience is always the first rule in this hobby

 

Do you imagine if I would have had the same patience writing the GUIDE ??

That has taken some thousands of hours my friends (yes you have read well: THOUSANDS)

 

ALE

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SamsonAusKognito

Thanks for your great work and giving us the Panerai rep bible. :clap:

 

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