AKO 0 Posted April 5, 2017 Hello Looking to purchase a omega seamaster 300 ceramic and have been in touch with a couple of TDs. One of which has offered an Asian clone movement 2824 whereas all others have said the watch only comes with a Swiss eta, which I understand being a refurb. The Asian clone version is approx $100 cheaper but was a little confused as apparently it isn't possible. Don't want to end up with an inferior rep. Does anyone have any knowledge about this? Thanks in advance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martijn0007 3 Posted April 5, 2017 You might want to ask what factory the watches are from. ETAs found in reps are indeed used and should be avoided. Issue with the ceramic 300s is that the movement in the rep is thicker than the one in the gen, making the case too big. The bezel insert isn't the best either, gen uses different method than rep for engraving the numbers. Word has that MK factory is making a new 300c which looks pretty good: http://www.intime01.co/content/98-news-omega-smp-mk-best-edition-coming-soon-parts-review Might be worth waiting for a bit and see if the MK is any good, if we're lucky it might even use a clone of the 2892 which would be the same thickness as the gen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AKO 0 Posted April 5, 2017 Thanks a lot. I did see the MK factory pics - looks incredible. Don't suppose there's any idea when this could be available? The TD insisted that the Asian clone version is from the BP factory, same as the Swiss ETA. But as all other dealers said this doesn't exist I thought perhaps it was an older/less quality rep. You mention the difference in size, is this noticeable to the untrained eye? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Martijn0007 3 Posted April 5, 2017 Not sure when we will see the MK. In the pics there is no insert, which probably means they're still working on it. Might be a days, could also be a few months. You never know with the makers. Is the dealer that offered you the asian movement Trusty Time or Perfect Clones? They have strong connections with the BP factory and it could be that they have access to some slightly different parts than the other dealers. Could also be that the dealer has some watches still laying around from earlier batches. The difference is only 1 mm as far as I can remember, but it means that the entire watch is thicker and makes it inpossible to add gen parts for a franken if that's something you're interested in. No one notice unless you have it side by side with the gen and even then it's hard to spot such a small difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2fake4u 0 Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) Not sure when we will see the MK. In the pics there is no insert, which probably means they're still working on it. Might be a days, could also be a few months. You never know with the makers. Is the dealer that offered you the asian movement Trusty Time or Perfect Clones? They have strong connections with the BP factory and it could be that they have access to some slightly different parts than the other dealers. Could also be that the dealer has some watches still laying around from earlier batches. The difference is only 1 mm as far as I can remember, but it means that the entire watch is thicker and makes it inpossible to add gen parts for a franken if that's something you're interested in. No one notice unless you have it side by side with the gen and even then it's hard to spot such a small difference. Correct, the 2824 is 4.6mm thick vs 2892 3.6mm thick. However, you can still franken pretty easy without an issue. I just finished a franken using the SMPc w/ a2824 case and using a gen Omega movement, dial, hands, bezel, etc and it fit perfectly. the movement sits a tad farther into the case, but not enough to mess up the stem and the movement holder holds it tight in place. Only difference is the case itself is 1.5-2mm thicker than gen, so it is noticeable imo. As for that new MK SMP, case looks like its thinner, but how much thinner is hard to tell. Really hoping it is the correct thickness though. That is the biggest tell on these watches imo, especially after you throw on a gen bezel. Edit: the actual dimension from face of movement to stem is 1.5mm for the 2892 and 1.8mm for the 2824. the bulk of the difference is in the "back end" of the movement, so that is why you can use the Gen Omega 1109/1120 movements in these. Edited April 5, 2017 by 2fake4u Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
