69-Watch 3 Posted November 17, 2014 So I have a couple of winders, wanted to know what is the best settings for them? Clockwise, Counter clockwise, mix of both? Does it make a big difference? Is one better than the other for the movements? How much winding is best? 2min out of 30min, 2 min out of 15min, Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Escapizm 23 Posted November 17, 2014 Good question, I look forward to some informative replies, I've seen some comments on the vajoux 7750 not liking being at 45 deg (I've one in a breitling) I've yet to buy mine but I'm looking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
conx 0 Posted November 17, 2014 It depends on the watch - some like the 7750 only wind one way, whereas a 2836 winds both ways. I'm sure an adult will be along soon to give the exact details. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Irishcain 0 Posted November 20, 2014 If you have a winder that allows you to adjust the angle, 30 degrees is optimal according to WOSTEP. All high quality watchwinders should be provided with a time control of some sort to regulate the actual winding time cycles. Rather than talking about winding time in terms of minutes or hours, we substitute Turns Per Day (TPD). That is the number of turns of the internal rotor that is required each day to keep the particular watch wound. Most automatic watches require 500 to 800 TPD although there are others with longer power reserves that need 1300 TPD. For example, a Rolex President needs about 600 TPD. Rolex watches are designed to wind in both directions as do many other brands. However, some other watches wind in one direction only and that direction can be clockwise or counterclockwise. For example, many Patek Philippe watches only wind counterclockwise. chronographs using a Valjoux 7750 movement wind only clockwise and need at least 800 TPD. Accordingly, the best-engineered watchwinders are programmable both for TPD and rotation direction to meet these diverse requirements. Presuming your particular watch needs 600 TPD to keep it wound. Some watchwinders run continuously for several hours and then turn off for the rest of the day (i.e. 100 turns per hour x 6 hours = 600 TPD). Others run for only a few minutes per hour, but do so all day long (i.e. 25 turns per hour x 24 hours = 600 TPD). Both methods keep your watch fully wound but when it comes to watch accuracy, the second method is infinitely better because the mainspring attains its greatest torque when it is fully wound. As it slowly unwinds over the day, torque decreases and this torque reduction impacts the running accuracy of the watch. So, periodic rewinding all day long translates into more constant torque, a constant running rate and a more accurate watch.All automatic watches have a built-in slipping mechanism that prevents over winding. However, this safety device should not be overstressed as it will eventually wear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bncrpt 1 Posted November 22, 2014 Irishcain. ..awesome response sure answered the few questions I was going to slip into this thread!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Escapizm 23 Posted November 22, 2014 Great reply irishcain! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
69-Watch 3 Posted November 23, 2014 Thanks for the information, it was very useful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cubic Hare 494 Posted February 8, 2015 Good old search button saved me again.. Cheers If you have a winder that allows you to adjust the angle, 30 degrees is optimal according to WOSTEP. All high quality watchwinders should be provided with a time control of some sort to regulate the actual winding time cycles. Rather than talking about winding time in terms of minutes or hours, we substitute Turns Per Day (TPD). That is the number of turns of the internal rotor that is required each day to keep the particular watch wound. Most automatic watches require 500 to 800 TPD although there are others with longer power reserves that need 1300 TPD. For example, a Rolex President needs about 600 TPD. Rolex watches are designed to wind in both directions as do many other brands. However, some other watches wind in one direction only and that direction can be clockwise or counterclockwise. For example, many Patek Philippe watches only wind counterclockwise. chronographs using a Valjoux 7750 movement wind only clockwise and need at least 800 TPD. Accordingly, the best-engineered watchwinders are programmable both for TPD and rotation direction to meet these diverse requirements. Presuming your particular watch needs 600 TPD to keep it wound. Some watchwinders run continuously for several hours and then turn off for the rest of the day (i.e. 100 turns per hour x 6 hours = 600 TPD). Others run for only a few minutes per hour, but do so all day long (i.e. 25 turns per hour x 24 hours = 600 TPD). Both methods keep your watch fully wound but when it comes to watch accuracy, the second method is infinitely better because the mainspring attains its greatest torque when it is fully wound. As it slowly unwinds over the day, torque decreases and this torque reduction impacts the running accuracy of the watch. So, periodic rewinding all day long translates into more constant torque, a constant running rate and a more accurate watch.All automatic watches have a built-in slipping mechanism that prevents over winding. However, this safety device should not be overstressed as it will eventually wear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites