Tony-hk 0 Posted December 25, 2016 1) Re: 15400 navy I learnt from the sister forum that the navy dial colour is very very hard to mimic. So even for the best JF, the dial is always a tell from distance that it is fake. I'm not dreaming to have a 100% identical rep. But would like to have a reasonably good rep so people cannot tell while I'm wearing it in motion. Can owners heee share some light? 2) Re: 15202 I saw DC's excellent review and then go ahead to order from my TD. Surprisingly, he said they don't carry it because it has so many problem and it is a cheap rep. I am think whether there are different factories so different quality or the TD just dislike something they don't carry? What is the general experience about 15202 rep? I am desperately want to have a smaller and slimmer RO. I think it is more classic and genuine RO design. Tried the 15450 and dislike about the thickness. The 15300 is a cheap rep I heard. 15202 is my last hope. Many thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thelittleprince 2 Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) 15400 blue in gen is an extremely rare watch, highly doubt you would ever meet anyone that owns or has ever seen one id say go for it, its a beautiful rep Edited December 25, 2016 by Thelittleprince Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted December 25, 2016 15400 blue in gen is an extremely rare watch, highly doubt you would ever meet anyone that owns or has ever seen one id say go for it, its a beautiful rep Rare? Not in hkg where OP is from Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thelittleprince 2 Posted December 25, 2016 15400 blue in gen is an extremely rare watch, highly doubt you would ever meet anyone that owns or has ever seen one id say go for it, its a beautiful rep Rare? Not in hkg where OP is from Its a boutique only edition, which AP tries to limit the boutique editions as much as they can. Therefore the blue is a rare bird In reps they aren't tho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted December 25, 2016 15400 blue in gen is an extremely rare watch, highly doubt you would ever meet anyone that owns or has ever seen one id say go for it, its a beautiful rep Rare? Not in hkg where OP is from Its a boutique only edition, which AP tries to limit the boutique editions as much as they can. Therefore the blue is a rare bird In reps they aren't tho That's what they tell the public... there's plenty of ways to get it via the non boutique... No... they are not rare birds as you claim they are Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thelittleprince 2 Posted December 25, 2016 15400 blue in gen is an extremely rare watch, highly doubt you would ever meet anyone that owns or has ever seen one id say go for it, its a beautiful rep Rare? Not in hkg where OP is from Its a boutique only edition, which AP tries to limit the boutique editions as much as they can. Therefore the blue is a rare bird In reps they aren't tho That's what they tell the public... there's plenty of ways to get it via the non boutique... No... they are not rare birds as you claim they are Okay if you believe so all im saying is they are not common! Not saying theres only 500 in the world or something but its very unlikely you will find one in the wild. Are there blue dials in the grey market? Yes but they originally came from the boutique! AP wouldn't claim something is boutique and secretly sell it somewhere else this is not a child's game. But you might have been lucky enough to see a bunch of gen blue dials around i assume thats why you are completely againts my comment about them being rare? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thelittleprince 2 Posted December 25, 2016 1) Re: 15400 navyI learnt from the sister forum that the navy dial colour is very very hard to mimic. So even for the best JF, the dial is always a tell from distance that it is fake. I'm not dreaming to have a 100% identical rep. But would like to have a reasonably good rep so people cannot tell while I'm wearing it in motion. Can owners heee share some light? 2) Re: 15202 I saw DC's excellent review and then go ahead to order from my TD. Surprisingly, he said they don't carry it because it has so many problem and it is a cheap rep. I am think whether there are different factories so different quality or the TD just dislike something they don't carry? What is the general experience about 15202 rep? I am desperately want to have a smaller and slimmer RO. I think it is more classic and genuine RO design. Tried the 15450 and dislike about the thickness. The 15300 is a cheap rep I heard. 15202 is my last hope. Many thanks. Oh btw buddy, the 15202 is a solid watch but has many inaccuracies! If that doesn't bother you then go for it because its a solid watch If you want the most aesteticaly accurate royal oak, for now would have to be the JF 15400. Although it has inaccurate stuff also like the thickness, i believe its the best royal oak in the market at the moment hope this helps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony-hk 0 Posted December 25, 2016 Thanks prince and realism for the comment. They are very useful. 1) 15400 navy Actually I can live with some inaccuracy, even for a different navy. What I'm trying to avoid is some very bright blue, metallic blue etc. 15400 dial is tricky because if you look at different photos on the internet, you may find some very nice navy and some you don't want to appear on your wrist because it look funny. Even more difficult for me, I already have the 15400, may as well get the white dial for a light colour dial. 2) 15202 Glad to know that it is a solid watch. I just worried it is a cheap and light watch with loose bracelet etc. I can live with the missing "Automaric" etc as long as the navy is not the bright one. I think dial colour is very important. I may pull the trigger after checking more dial colour of the 15202 but I saw so far were pretty nice. Speaking of the rareness of the 15202 here, maybe because I'm not in the high end community here, I rarely see the 15202 on street. Rolex and Pam are predominant. Higher end ones are PP annual calendar, aquanaut, etc. I do have a friend who owns rep 15202 and 5711 (Geneva seal special edition or something). Funny enough, he is the one introduced me to rep world. He said PP and AP watches have so many problems. Their movement ane decorated for aesthetic purpose. Not reliable at all. He would prefer miyota for daily wear. He bought the rare 15202 and 5711 for investment only. Slightly off topic but just to share. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony-hk 0 Posted December 25, 2016 Edit. My friend own gen 5711 and 15202 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted December 25, 2016 15400 blue in gen is an extremely rare watch, highly doubt you would ever meet anyone that owns or has ever seen one id say go for it, its a beautiful rep Rare? Not in hkg where OP is from Its a boutique only edition, which AP tries to limit the boutique editions as much as they can. Therefore the blue is a rare bird In reps they aren't tho That's what they tell the public... there's plenty of ways to get it via the non boutique... No... they are not rare birds as you claim they are Okay if you believe so all im saying is they are not common! Not saying theres only 500 in the world or something but its very unlikely you will find one in the wild. Are there blue dials in the grey market? Yes but they originally came from the boutique! AP wouldn't claim something is boutique and secretly sell it somewhere else this is not a child's game. But you might have been lucky enough to see a bunch of gen blue dials around i assume thats why you are completely againts my comment about them being rare? There's no such thing as a rare gen unless a limited ed for AP... or the 15202... caused by the jlc movt... where do you think jomashop gets their stock from??? The boutique??? In the gen world... there's no such thing as an exclusive item... if you have money... there's always someone willing to supply it if the price is right... And yes im talking about discounted 15400 blue dial... Last but not least, if you think RO is rare... just walk in into a Goldman year end party... even 5711 is common as fuck.. And yes... i own watches that are supposedly hard to get... not the grand complications/ complications type... but the likes of "boutique" edition Edit. My friend own gen 5711 and 15202 Tony... get the black dialed one... the most gen like... compares it to a friend's black before... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thelittleprince 2 Posted December 25, 2016 15400 blue in gen is an extremely rare watch, highly doubt you would ever meet anyone that owns or has ever seen one id say go for it, its a beautiful rep Rare? Not in hkg where OP is from Its a boutique only edition, which AP tries to limit the boutique editions as much as they can. Therefore the blue is a rare bird In reps they aren't tho That's what they tell the public... there's plenty of ways to get it via the non boutique... No... they are not rare birds as you claim they are Okay if you believe so all im saying is they are not common! Not saying theres only 500 in the world or something but its very unlikely you will find one in the wild. Are there blue dials in the grey market? Yes but they originally came from the boutique! AP wouldn't claim something is boutique and secretly sell it somewhere else this is not a child's game. But you might have been lucky enough to see a bunch of gen blue dials around i assume thats why you are completely againts my comment about them being rare? There's no such thing as a rare gen unless a limited ed for AP... or the 15202... caused by the jlc movt... where do you think jomashop gets their stock from??? The boutique??? In the gen world... there's no such thing as an exclusive item... if you have money... there's always someone willing to supply it if the price is right... And yes im talking about discounted 15400 blue dial... Last but not least, if you think RO is rare... just walk in into a Goldman year end party... even 5711 is common as fuck.. And yes... i own watches that are supposedly hard to get... not the grand complications/ complications type... but the likes of "boutique" edition Edit. My friend own gen 5711 and 15202 Tony... get the black dialed one... the most gen like... compares it to a friend's black before... Lol first of all i never said RO is rare, i said the blue dial is rare! And i stand by it, you want to believe that AP would lie about something being boutique exclusive just for sales thats fine everyone is in titled to believe whatever they want! As for me AP said its boutique exclusive and i believe it! Don't put words in my mouth because i never said royal oaks are rare! I said blue ones are! I have seen a bunch of Royal oaks in the wild but i have never seen a blue one... fact! As i said before maybe you have seen a bunch of blue ones thats why you are so defensive about it not being rare! Or maybe you are just lucky enough to see a bunch of JF v2's who knows Just to give an example the white ceramic diver is a boutique edition as well. I guarantee not a single person on this fourm has seen it in the wild! Or maybe one person out of the 80 thousand plus members here has seen it.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thelittleprince 2 Posted December 25, 2016 I do not like the thought of giving out wrong information. So i did a bit of research and every single site i open that has the blue dial claims its rare Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg_r 81 Posted December 25, 2016 Not a review. Moved to General Discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony-hk 0 Posted December 25, 2016 Thanks Greg. And sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carter23 2 Posted December 25, 2016 15202.... for the price it goes at... bloody amazing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted December 25, 2016 I do not like the thought of giving out wrong information. So i did a bit of research and every single site i open that has the blue dial claims its rare Same sites who publishes wrong info on how to spot a rep rolex? Or do you rather hear from someone who has hunted down a 5711 without waiting? Guess not... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thelittleprince 2 Posted December 25, 2016 My guess is you haven't seen the blue dial in the wild since all you keep doing is mentioning a 5711 But hey its a pointless argument honestly. I believe they are rarer and you don't, End of story Merry Christmas Buddy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Left Coast Guy 24 Posted December 26, 2016 15400 blue in gen is an extremely rare watch, highly doubt you would ever meet anyone that owns or has ever seen one id say go for it, its a beautiful rep Rare? Not in hkg where OP is from Its a boutique only edition, which AP tries to limit the boutique editions as much as they can. Therefore the blue is a rare bird In reps they aren't tho That's what they tell the public... there's plenty of ways to get it via the non boutique... No... they are not rare birds as you claim they are Okay if you believe so all im saying is they are not common! Not saying theres only 500 in the world or something but its very unlikely you will find one in the wild. Are there blue dials in the grey market? Yes but they originally came from the boutique! AP wouldn't claim something is boutique and secretly sell it somewhere else this is not a child's game. But you might have been lucky enough to see a bunch of gen blue dials around i assume thats why you are completely againts my comment about them being rare? There's no such thing as a rare gen unless a limited ed for AP... or the 15202... caused by the jlc movt... where do you think jomashop gets their stock from??? The boutique??? In the gen world... there's no such thing as an exclusive item... if you have money... there's always someone willing to supply it if the price is right... And yes im talking about discounted 15400 blue dial... Last but not least, if you think RO is rare... just walk in into a Goldman year end party... even 5711 is common as fuck.. And yes... i own watches that are supposedly hard to get... not the grand complications/ complications type... but the likes of "boutique" edition Edit. My friend own gen 5711 and 15202 Tony... get the black dialed one... the most gen like... compares it to a friend's black before... Just my two cents, but I've been to the Goldman year-end party and I've never seen a blue dial 15400 in the wild... I wouldn claim to be an AP expert, but I do see lots of luxury watches in the wild, and when I do see APs it's usually a 15400 in black or that silvery white. Still as it goes, you see Rolex the most, Panerai next, and an oddity to see an AP or Patek Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atgm 0 Posted December 26, 2016 More anecdata, but I live in Tokyo and have seen a fair number of APs in the wild... not a single of them was the blue dial. Usually the black dial here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishjohn 0 Posted December 28, 2016 15202.... for the price it goes at... bloody amazing. I have been looking for one of these but cant find it on any td sites...help please..lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony-hk 0 Posted December 30, 2016 Thanks again for everyone advice. I have placed the order for 15202. After my 15000 arrived, I feel more confidence on the upcoming 15202. Both are quartz but different makers. Let's see. Will give another quick and dirty review if anyone is interested. For the black dial15400, I have it already although it is not JF. I agree it is pretty gen like at least in my untrained eyes. @irisjohn, did you try Toro? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
