borgy 0 Posted February 10, 2016 Hi everyone, Hope you are all doing well. I need your help here, as my knowledges are very poor when it comes to watches. I bought my first replica (SD 4000 Noob v1) on here last week and was very happy Well the time is running well, the watch looks good but the date wont change. It changed the first day i got it then it remained stucked. I can change it manually though, but thats just wrong (even my cheapest watches change their date on their own)... I tried to set the date to the day before, fix the time and wait 24 hours. Still no change. Also i never changed the time (or released the crown) during 10pm and 2am ( i believe its what you guys call a dead zone ) The movement is Asian Eta 2813 Automatic Movement. So if anyone could help me fix this ? It would be highly appreciated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genius 281 Posted February 10, 2016 Hi everyone, Hope you are all doing well. I need your help here, as my knowledges are very poor when it comes to watches. I bought my first replica (SD 4000 Noob v1) on here last week and was very happy Well the time is running well, the watch looks good but the date wont change. It changed the first day i got it then it remained stucked. I can change it manually though, but thats just wrong (even my cheapest watches change their date on their own)... I tried to set the date to the day before, fix the time and wait 24 hours. Still no change. Also i never changed the time (or released the crown) during 10pm and 2am ( i believe its what you guys call a dead zone ) The movement is Asian Eta 2813 Automatic Movement. So if anyone could help me fix this ? It would be highly appreciated A 2813 and an asian ETA are 2 completely different movement, if its a 2813 then its probably easier to change the movement than to try and fix it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
borgy 0 Posted February 10, 2016 Well seller says its this one : http://www.torobravo2015.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=1419 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenTLe 1,501 Posted February 10, 2016 Well seller says its this one : http://www.torobravo2015.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=1419 He just forgot "or". 2813 = 138$ special price Asian eta = 100$ more You can choose the movement on this watch. What did you pay? If 138$ then it is a 2813 nothing to share with an eta clone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genius 281 Posted February 10, 2016 Well seller says its this one : http://www.torobravo...product_id=1419 He just forgot "or". 2813 = 138$ special price Asian eta = 100$ more You can choose the movement on this watch. What did you pay? If 138$ then it is a 2813 nothing to share with an eta clone. ^^^This^^^ In the spec Toro lists the 2 movements Asian Clone ETA or 2813, granted it probably should have a " / " in there to make it clearer but not really necessary as you select the movement from the dropdownj, so again, which did you get... 2813 or Asian ETA? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
borgy 0 Posted February 11, 2016 its a classical 2813 guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dendo 93 Posted February 11, 2016 Its a DG2813 - which means you can buy a replacement movement for about $20 and then you need to remove the hands, dial, date wheel overlay and then stick on the overlay, replace dial and hands and put it all together. Not a newbie job but something a watchsmith could quickly do for you. But you might consider changing up to the ETA movement then... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
borgy 0 Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) Thank you for the answer Dendo So i assume theres nothing i can do except changing the movement right ? Im kind of disappointed with that as its the frist rep i bought :/ Do you have any adresses on where i could buy this movement ? Also do you know how much a watchsmith would charge me for such a service ? I paid 155$ for the watch i hope the service isnt gonna be the same price :/ Edited February 11, 2016 by borgy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davidmac 6 Posted February 11, 2016 I have a spare 2813, are you in the uk? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UmpaHimself 222 Posted February 11, 2016 Its a DG2813 - which means you can buy a replacement movement for about $20 and then you need to remove the hands, dial, date wheel overlay and then stick on the overlay, replace dial and hands and put it all together. Not a newbie job but something a watchsmith could quickly do for you. But you might consider changing up to the ETA movement then... Changing up to the ETA isn't that simple though, he would need the new movement, new hands, a new movement retainer ring and probably a new DWO. You can order a new 2813 directly from eBay or you can ask one of our TDs: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASIAN-DG2813-2813-AUTOMATIC-WATCH-MOVEMENT-NEW-/221991785548?hash=item33afbdd44c:g:HeQAAOSwwPhWk1bV Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dendo 93 Posted February 11, 2016 Its a DG2813 - which means you can buy a replacement movement for about $20 and then you need to remove the hands, dial, date wheel overlay and then stick on the overlay, replace dial and hands and put it all together. Not a newbie job but something a watchsmith could quickly do for you. But you might consider changing up to the ETA movement then... Changing up to the ETA isn't that simple though, he would need the new movement, new hands, a new movement retainer ring and probably a new DWO. You can order a new 2813 directly from eBay or you can ask one of our TDs: http://www.ebay.com/...eQAAOSwwPhWk1bV True - the hands will be different and the retainer ring needs to be right - best to stick now with the 2813 - you can get lucky with these movements - some are very good.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
borgy 0 Posted February 11, 2016 I have a spare 2813, are you in the uk? no im in canada :/ thx for offering though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
borgy 0 Posted February 11, 2016 Its a DG2813 - which means you can buy a replacement movement for about $20 and then you need to remove the hands, dial, date wheel overlay and then stick on the overlay, replace dial and hands and put it all together. Not a newbie job but something a watchsmith could quickly do for you. But you might consider changing up to the ETA movement then... Changing up to the ETA isn't that simple though, he would need the new movement, new hands, a new movement retainer ring and probably a new DWO. You can order a new 2813 directly from eBay or you can ask one of our TDs: http://www.ebay.com/...eQAAOSwwPhWk1bV True - the hands will be different and the retainer ring needs to be right - best to stick now with the 2813 - you can get lucky with these movements - some are very good.. i guess its my best option... do you have any idea how much a watchsmith would charge me to replace the movement ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davidmac 6 Posted February 11, 2016 It'll probably cost you $100 for it all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
borgy 0 Posted February 11, 2016 It'll probably cost you $100 for it all. Jesus christ... i guess im never buying again from m2m :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UmpaHimself 222 Posted February 11, 2016 It'll probably cost you $100 for it all. Jesus christ... i guess im never buying again from m2m :( This is the rep life. Get used to it or go gen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenTLe 1,501 Posted February 11, 2016 Thank you for the answer Dendo So i assume theres nothing i can do except changing the movement right ? Well you may try to see what is wrong in yours. But if you never disassembled some movements and you don't have the right tools it will be a disaster probably. 2813 isn't the easiest movement around... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davidmac 6 Posted February 11, 2016 It'd be worth having a go yourself, you can pick up the tools fairly cheap. The movements aren't expensive either, there's plenty of guides about the forums explaining the processes of removing hands, dials etc.. Or you could sell it as is and buy a replacement. I wouldn't let this discourage you from m2m deals, the same could've happened had you purchased from a TD, they're replica watches at the end of the day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davidmac 6 Posted February 11, 2016 In fact, I had a very similar situation to you! A couple of years ago I bought a 26mm datejust for my wife via an m2m deal that arrived dead. After much tinkering with the movement I knackered the balance hair Spring but that gave me the confidence and experience to source and replace the movement entirely. Good luck, need any help let me know. Dave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
borgy 0 Posted February 12, 2016 Thank you for your advices Dave. I dont feel confident enough to fix it myself though... I was hoping there was a little trick to fix this date issue but apparently not... Oh well lesson learned, i guess i will have to buy from a TD next time instead of a RWG member. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCRich 13,748 Posted February 12, 2016 Its a DG2813 - which means you can buy a replacement movement for about $20 and then you need to remove the hands, dial, date wheel overlay and then stick on the overlay, replace dial and hands and put it all together. Not a newbie job but something a watchsmith could quickly do for you. But you might consider changing up to the ETA movement then... Where do you find a DG2813 for $20? I keep seeing posts about $10 and $20 for these movements and the cheapest I have found is at least 50% more. $30 shipped is as cheap as I have seen them and I've looked a lot. I want a $20 shipped movement! In addition he'd need new hands, dial, and a movement to go ETA. And pay a watchsmith. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenTLe 1,501 Posted February 12, 2016 In addition he'd need new hands, dial, and a movement to go ETA. And pay a watchsmith. Why should he go ETA? He just need one of these: http://www.ebay.it/itm/221759285244 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davidmac 6 Posted February 12, 2016 Thank you for your advices Dave. I dont feel confident enough to fix it myself though... I was hoping there was a little trick to fix this date issue but apparently not...Oh well lesson learned, i guess i will have to buy from a TD next time instead of a RWG member. I'm no expert by all means! But I can do a movement swap, if you want to send it to me I'll change the movement for you. Just cover the shipping costs. I have a spare that I can throw in it for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
borgy 0 Posted February 12, 2016 Thank you for your advices Dave. I dont feel confident enough to fix it myself though... I was hoping there was a little trick to fix this date issue but apparently not...Oh well lesson learned, i guess i will have to buy from a TD next time instead of a RWG member. I'm no expert by all means! But I can do a movement swap, if you want to send it to me I'll change the movement for you. Just cover the shipping costs. I have a spare that I can throw in it for you. While i appreciate the gesture, i cant take any risks. The watch may get lost during shipping. You never know what can happen. Thx for proposing a solution though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silentflight 0 Posted February 15, 2016 A 2836 clone should swap right out w a 2813. Pick up TC DWO, enjoy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
