deroya 0 Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) So these are the not so great pics offered to me by the seller. I know a decent amount about this watch, the Rolex Explorer 1 36mm ref 114270, however the pictures aren't selling it to me just yet. A little background i can steal this watch off this guy (originally asking 3500, could possibly get it for much less) however its a shipping kind of deal and i need to go with my gut and roll the dice. Either way id be covered under pay pals policy and everything. It has no box or papers (inherited piece apparently), which is why I am weary on this one. I recently bought a tag carrera 16 day off a guy online going by pics but he had all the stuff to go with it. -Backing sticker looks gen, going by the holographic stickers and online referencing. holographic + black text for certain years. -One thing that scares me is the lume is green. I was under the impression the lume was a bluer color for these. not 100% sure and its a weird one to find online. However lume placement is correct, nonlume on the 3, 6, and 9 -bracelet clasp and dial look correct. -crown looks nice and sharply edged, as well as material looks to be correct. -Also the higher raised crystal is a gen feature of this watch. My reps crystal is not raised as high. What do you guys think. Im not looking for criticism here for my choices buying online from a non-trusted seller. I do this often and am willing to take the risk given the evidence of the watch supports a gen model and the price is right. I do it a lot for resale watches however this will be one ill probably keep forever because i love this watch also have it in rep. Apologize for the poor quality pictures, click to enlarge. Thanks Edited May 30, 2015 by deroya Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatarms 7,777 Posted May 30, 2015 Fake as hell, look at the LEC in the pic with the flash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rawbaws 91 Posted May 30, 2015 Just look at the Lume application. Horrible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RussP 22,340 Posted May 30, 2015 Isn't it supposed to have the laser etched crown? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatarms 7,777 Posted May 30, 2015 Look at the Rolex crown printed on the dial, the fonts used on the dial. Compare to this: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatarms 7,777 Posted May 30, 2015 Isn't it supposed to have the laser etched crown? Yes and it shouldn't be anywhere near that visible. That's one of the main tells for the reps we buy, only recently have they gone with a much less prominent, harder to see LEC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC1221 44 Posted May 30, 2015 it looks like somebody painted that dial with a dot matrix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatarms 7,777 Posted May 30, 2015 Just look at the Lume application. Horrible Yep, look at the difference in thickness alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RussP 22,340 Posted May 30, 2015 it looks like somebody painted that dial with a dot matrix. Your avatar is mesmerising........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deroya 0 Posted May 30, 2015 Wow, this is all great input which i really appreciate. the pics are so bad it was difficult to tell for me. blurry etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatarms 7,777 Posted May 30, 2015 Wow, this is all great input which i really appreciate. the pics are so bad it was difficult to tell for me. blurry etc That could be on purpose. The most telling pic is the one with the flash, actually. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUSH2112 11 Posted May 30, 2015 Is it even possible to take worse photos? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deroya 0 Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) Is it even possible to take worse photos? Thats what I'm saying. I am 50/50 on it just because the photos are so bad i usually have a pretty good eye. Edited May 30, 2015 by deroya Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trailboss99 994 Posted May 30, 2015 Na, fake as fake can be mate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deroya 0 Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) Na, fake as fake can be mate. I appreciate that. I am trying to get him to send me better pictures and perhaps a video so i can see the movement etc, i really want it to be real bc of the price i can get it for. But hey usually if things are too good to be true, they usually are. Keep in mind poor quality pictures VS promotional high def rolex pictures are going to look way off all day. ill keep updated. Edited May 30, 2015 by deroya Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stewart 0 Posted May 30, 2015 In my opinion, knowing what I have learned from RWG, I would not purchase a high end gen (basically anything that is replicated) without close personal inspection, a guarantee from a authorized retailer, or both. I would consider buying any Rolex based on pictures alone very risky, and those are very poor pictures. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mach25 0 Posted May 30, 2015 Looks fake to me too.... And Ive seen better fakes and own one. Could always ask for a photo of serial number behind the end link and run it through Rolex web site. Best to steer clear. If its real, he can put better pics up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakeg05 0 Posted May 30, 2015 Real in a parallel universe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vreds 0 Posted May 30, 2015 Na, fake as fake can be mate. I appreciate that. I am trying to get him to send me better pictures and perhaps a video so i can see the movement etc, i really want it to be real bc of the price i can get it for. But hey usually if things are too good to be true, they usually are. Keep in mind poor quality pictures VS promotional high def rolex pictures are going to look way off all day. ill keep updated. Meh I wouldn't bother. That LEC is horrible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deju 1,884 Posted May 30, 2015 Geez that lume is sloppy as hell! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
myaz 3 Posted May 30, 2015 I am trying to get him to send me better pictures and perhaps a video so i can see the movement etc, i really want it to be real bc of the price i can get it for. Gotta be blunt here. It's not a gen, no matter how much you desperately want it to be. As per wreds, let it go, or you have comprehension fail. edit: damn autocorrect misspelled wreds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duzza 182 Posted May 30, 2015 OP wants it to be a gen. It isn't. It's a shit Canal St piece of crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simonbolivar 1 Posted May 30, 2015 It's not even a good replica, bordering on canal street crap. Check the 18k stamps on the back in photo showing the case back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted May 30, 2015 OP wants it to be a gen. It isn't. It's a shit Canal St piece of crap. he thought he could get a killer deal... used gens are a zero sum game... there's so many sources to derive values from (WUS, TRF, Chrono24, Watchrecon, TZ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
black263 228 Posted May 30, 2015 Have a close look at the fit of the end links against the watch case, and compare the corners with this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
