WatchDog21 3,345 Posted October 8, 2015 Yes, I believe this is the way the gen Explorer II operates as well. IMHO, the way all GMT's should operate. When I'm traveling, I like to keep local time on the hour hand and home time on the GMT hand. Makes it so much easier when you don't have to hack the movement - you just quickset the hour hand to local and you're done. On my Steinhart Ocean Vintage GMT with swiss ETA 2893-2, the GMT hand is tied to quickset. So, I have to hack the movement, adjust to local time and then re-sync to another time source. Total pain in the ass. I can't wait for this watch!! And, BTW, if you want an even more serious Dual Time watch, you should consider the Citizen AT9030-55L (or one of its variants). THAT is really a pleasure to work with when adjusting your Time Zones. Some pluses of the watch: -very, very elegant dark blue dial, nearly black on most occasions; -dual time sub-dial: allows non-standard timezones (Delhi...WTF...) to have the half an hour time difference set independently; -time zones on the dial: you pull the crown one stop, push the 4 o'clock button, select your timezone, push back the crown and you're done; -quick inversion of timezones: push simultaneously the 2 and 4 buttons and the timezones swap (main dial inverts with subidal); -radio controlled accuracy. 1 second difference in 10 million years; -Eco Drive: leave it a little light and it goes forever; -day-date & PR indicator. Here's a picture for you to drool: Nice Citizen, looks very similar to the Astron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
conx 0 Posted October 8, 2015 Love the watch - I will be picking one of these up for sure. As far as winding goes, you simply need an induction tooth brush charger from Braun or Philips - yes it works! I charged a kinetic from 20 secs on the indicator to 30 secs using one. Do a search in Google and you'll find some discussions on WUS. Interesting: I will certainly buy one. Which model of charger do you use? I've actually found the best results were with the charging base for the Philips Imageo LED tea lights. The watch sits in the recess and charges likes a dream, just press the on button once a day. Put the watch in standing with 6pm at the bottom to get the kinetic coil in the correct place to charge. OK. So the Kinetic coil is at 6pm? From the caseback I can see also one at 9. Does that charge as well? I ordered the Oral-B vitality (I didn't have an electric toothbrush, so at worse I will try that! ) and plan to make the foam base. Should arrive by monday, will keep you posted guys. BTW: I'm really enjoying the watch. I'm a fond lover of Diver's watches and recently it was hard to take off the Baby Tunas (yes, both plain steel and black), but when you want something a little more elegant than a lovely, rough chunk of metal, this one is my preferred choice. TAG Heuer Link Cal.16 does the job as well, but this is so much more readable, and, of course, if you need GMT, wins hands down. Not sure where you would need to position the watch on a Braun charger, but both coils are somehow linked, you don't need to charge both. It's done by magic Let us know how you get on with the oral-b. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MoveAlong 23 Posted October 9, 2015 Yes, I believe this is the way the gen Explorer II operates as well. IMHO, the way all GMT's should operate. When I'm traveling, I like to keep local time on the hour hand and home time on the GMT hand. Makes it so much easier when you don't have to hack the movement - you just quickset the hour hand to local and you're done. On my Steinhart Ocean Vintage GMT with swiss ETA 2893-2, the GMT hand is tied to quickset. So, I have to hack the movement, adjust to local time and then re-sync to another time source. Total pain in the ass. I can't wait for this watch!! And, BTW, if you want an even more serious Dual Time watch, you should consider the Citizen AT9030-55L (or one of its variants). THAT is really a pleasure to work with when adjusting your Time Zones. Some pluses of the watch: -very, very elegant dark blue dial, nearly black on most occasions; -dual time sub-dial: allows non-standard timezones (Delhi...WTF...) to have the half an hour time difference set independently; -time zones on the dial: you pull the crown one stop, push the 4 o'clock button, select your timezone, push back the crown and you're done; -quick inversion of timezones: push simultaneously the 2 and 4 buttons and the timezones swap (main dial inverts with subidal); -radio controlled accuracy. 1 second difference in 10 million years; -Eco Drive: leave it a little light and it goes forever; -day-date & PR indicator. Here's a picture for you to drool: Nice Citizen, looks very similar to the Astron. Totally agree with that! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elmerlo 0 Posted October 9, 2015 Nice Citizen, looks very similar to the Astron. Yeah, the Astron is fantastic, but the price is out of my operative range, way too high. The AT9030s (4 versions) come around 320 Euros in Europe, without resorting to Singapore dealers. That's a steal for this watch, IMHO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MoveAlong 23 Posted October 9, 2015 Just in! I'll post some real pics after a while. Looks the usual stunning Seiko build quality. The power reserve went 10 seconds out of the box, so about a week's worth if I remember correctly? Can't wait to dive in to this! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elmerlo 0 Posted October 10, 2015 Just in! I'll post some real pics after a while. Looks the usual stunning Seiko build quality. The power reserve went 10 seconds out of the box, so about a week's worth if I remember correctly? Can't wait to dive in to this! Yay! and it was all my fault!!! Congratulations mate, I'm enjoying mine all the time. BTW: first tests of inductive charge with Oral-B proved inconclusive :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
not_finbar 0 Posted October 10, 2015 That is a handsome watch sir. The contrast between the brushed and polished steel looks really well done too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
conx 0 Posted October 10, 2015 Just in! I'll post some real pics after a while. Looks the usual stunning Seiko build quality. The power reserve went 10 seconds out of the box, so about a week's worth if I remember correctly? Can't wait to dive in to this! Yay! and it was all my fault!!! Congratulations mate, I'm enjoying mine all the time. BTW: first tests of inductive charge with Oral-B proved inconclusive :( It takes time.... leave it on charge for a couple of days. However, finding the right orientation seems to be the key. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kleen™ 45 Posted October 10, 2015 Just in! I'll post some real pics after a while. Looks the usual stunning Seiko build quality. The power reserve went 10 seconds out of the box, so about a week's worth if I remember correctly? Can't wait to dive in to this! Yay! and it was all my fault!!! Congratulations mate, I'm enjoying mine all the time. BTW: first tests of inductive charge with Oral-B proved inconclusive :( It takes time.... leave it on charge for a couple of days. However, finding the right orientation seems to be the key. 10 o'clock... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
profsteve 3 Posted October 12, 2015 I thought that kinetic for Seiko meant that it charged with movement like an ETA auto-wide but it charges capacitors rather then a mainspring. Since UV has been mentioned are you saying that the movement is charge by sunlight or the lume? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elmerlo 0 Posted October 12, 2015 I thought that kinetic for Seiko meant that it charged with movement like an ETA auto-wide but it charges capacitors rather then a mainspring. Since UV has been mentioned are you saying that the movement is charge by sunlight or the lume? Yes, charges by movement only, no light involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
profsteve 3 Posted October 12, 2015 I just ordered one so hopefully in a week or so I shall see. Looks like I might like it better than the Explorer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kleen™ 45 Posted October 12, 2015 I just ordered one so hopefully in a week or so I shall see. Looks like I might like it better than the Explorer. It's sharper looking than the Explorer...and it's a gen...what's not to like...?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
profsteve 3 Posted October 12, 2015 That is what I have seen in most of my Seikos- what's not to like- my sbdx001 should be here Tuesday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MetalMickey 179 Posted October 12, 2015 I love it. Think I'm going shopping! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kennycoder 97 Posted October 12, 2015 That citizen is also an amazing piece. Now I'm divided between these two :| Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gazzla 23 Posted October 12, 2015 Yes, I believe this is the way the gen Explorer II operates as well. IMHO, the way all GMT's should operate. When I'm traveling, I like to keep local time on the hour hand and home time on the GMT hand. Makes it so much easier when you don't have to hack the movement - you just quickset the hour hand to local and you're done. On my Steinhart Ocean Vintage GMT with swiss ETA 2893-2, the GMT hand is tied to quickset. So, I have to hack the movement, adjust to local time and then re-sync to another time source. Total pain in the ass. I can't wait for this watch!! And, BTW, if you want an even more serious Dual Time watch, you should consider the Citizen AT9030-55L (or one of its variants). THAT is really a pleasure to work with when adjusting your Time Zones. Some pluses of the watch: -very, very elegant dark blue dial, nearly black on most occasions; -dual time sub-dial: allows non-standard timezones (Delhi...WTF...) to have the half an hour time difference set independently; -time zones on the dial: you pull the crown one stop, push the 4 o'clock button, select your timezone, push back the crown and you're done; -quick inversion of timezones: push simultaneously the 2 and 4 buttons and the timezones swap (main dial inverts with subidal); -radio controlled accuracy. 1 second difference in 10 million years; -Eco Drive: leave it a little light and it goes forever; -day-date & PR indicator. Here's a picture for you to drool: Nice Citizen, looks very similar to the Astron. Totally agree with that! Whoooo there troops. Comparing a Citizen to an Astron? I think not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WatchDog21 3,345 Posted October 12, 2015 Yes, I believe this is the way the gen Explorer II operates as well. IMHO, the way all GMT's should operate. When I'm traveling, I like to keep local time on the hour hand and home time on the GMT hand. Makes it so much easier when you don't have to hack the movement - you just quickset the hour hand to local and you're done. On my Steinhart Ocean Vintage GMT with swiss ETA 2893-2, the GMT hand is tied to quickset. So, I have to hack the movement, adjust to local time and then re-sync to another time source. Total pain in the ass. I can't wait for this watch!! And, BTW, if you want an even more serious Dual Time watch, you should consider the Citizen AT9030-55L (or one of its variants). THAT is really a pleasure to work with when adjusting your Time Zones. Some pluses of the watch: -very, very elegant dark blue dial, nearly black on most occasions; -dual time sub-dial: allows non-standard timezones (Delhi...WTF...) to have the half an hour time difference set independently; -time zones on the dial: you pull the crown one stop, push the 4 o'clock button, select your timezone, push back the crown and you're done; -quick inversion of timezones: push simultaneously the 2 and 4 buttons and the timezones swap (main dial inverts with subidal); -radio controlled accuracy. 1 second difference in 10 million years; -Eco Drive: leave it a little light and it goes forever; -day-date & PR indicator. Here's a picture for you to drool: Nice Citizen, looks very similar to the Astron. Totally agree with that! Whoooo there troops. Comparing a Citizen to an Astron? I think not. Sorry Gaz, looks only at first glance... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MoveAlong 23 Posted October 12, 2015 So, how's the toothbrush charging coming along? I've been wearing mine for a few days now (actively) and have yet to get past 10 seconds on the power reserve meter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakurai 1 Posted October 12, 2015 Lovely, would take the Seiko over the Rolex every day of the week - and twice on Sunday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elmerlo 0 Posted October 13, 2015 Comparing a Citizen to an Astron? I think not. Compare the price difference :P With the cost of the Astron I guess you buy all the four variants of the Citizen and you still have money for an expensive dinner, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elmerlo 0 Posted October 13, 2015 So, how's the toothbrush charging coming along? I've been wearing mine for a few days now (actively) and have yet to get past 10 seconds on the power reserve meter. Nothing so far. Tried a few hours at 10 o'clock some days ago, nothing happened. Will try to leave it overnight, trying again at 9, right under the coil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elmerlo 0 Posted October 13, 2015 First Kinetic report: watch arrived on the 5th with only "5 sec" charge indication (= 1/7 days), nearly dead. I have been wearing it ever since, normal office/desk work, although I was sick in bed a couple of days, so very little movement there :P Today for the first time the charge indicator went to "10 sec" (7/30 days). Yay! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
