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This is a fake right? Or am I losing my mind?

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Andygreat

Is that crown guard supposed to have a gap like that?

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JoyDivisionu

Hard to say, that in itself doesn't scream fake at me. But you seem worried. maybe don't buy an expensive watch like this from some random on ebay. There is dealers that deal in gen-second hand watches in the trusted dealers list on the forum. Maybe try there or save up some more and buy a new one. If you can afford that one you are 66% there already anway.

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Dr Yan

I know it's old and beat up but there are many details screaming fake. Please take a look:

 

http://www.ebay.com/...=item2ee3297045

 

what details 'scream' fake to you ?

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black263

In the gen, the angle of the 2 between the curve and the bottom line is very sharp.

 

pam111_01_zps8jbrymfi.jpg

 

Compare that with the angle in this watch. I'm no expert, but that doesn't look right.

 

pam%20fake_zps6fotxvn9.jpg

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SteveA

Looks fake to me,crown guard,numerals,dial doesn't look quite right and I think rather than old it has been carefully aged to look used

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Dr Yan

Not sure about the 12, could be just the angle of photo.

all the usuals seem OK.

the movement is usually the easiest way to tell but it looks good on this.

The CDG on the movement is very fine just like the gen and the wheels have the correct amount of bevel on them.

the incabloc looks good too.

 

The only thing I can see is that the case back seems to be brushed and it should be polished on the 111

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