Akira 0 Posted January 21, 2011 Since the 14060 isn't replicated very well, so is the 1675. So What do I like else? The 5513 Anyone has it? Already "vintaged" and beaten up? Share pics please Gen: Pretty fucked up...I like Rep on Trusty site: http://www.yourtrustytime.com/index.php?ma...f2e18973d18c74a Which mods would be involved besides the ageing? Doom plexi? Cheers Akira Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
onzenuub 307 Posted January 21, 2011 I have a real vintage VDB of this one, you can buy for 2000 Euros, because Julios DNA is on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akira 0 Posted January 21, 2011 The gen says 200m=660ft SUBMARINER or SUBMARINER 660ft=200m never the combination on the rep dial Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebzen02 341 Posted January 21, 2011 I have a real vintage VDB of this one, you can buy for 2000 Euros, because Julios DNA is on it. Heard Julio wanked off and spilled some love juice on the dial.. It formed these beautiful vintage cracks on the indeces.. A masterpiece Stephan said when Julio forward some pics.. So some might have some real DNA.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akira 0 Posted January 21, 2011 stop threadrapping How is the quality of yukiwatch dials? They have the right dial writing http://www.yukiwatch.com/catalog/item/6380817/6217009.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebzen02 341 Posted January 21, 2011 get a cartel 5513 and swap the dial with a yuki one. Think they fit per what I have heard. Ask KBH.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akira 0 Posted January 21, 2011 http://www.1-pc8838.com/rlsv01106-vintage-...est-p-9667.html Right dial But why is this a high beat 21J? Isn't the gen caliber 1520 19800Bph ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KBH 7 Posted January 21, 2011 Yeah, get a Yuki and age the indices with some A1 Sauce. Supposed to add considerable value to any vintage project. I have no idea if the Trusty uses the same size dial as a gen. I'm pretty sure that the gen is about 1 1/2mm smaller than the current Sub dials so you better look into it further. Here is a mid-production-run 5513. Note the absence of the surrounds on the hour markers while the text is "660 ft = 200m" Here is an early 5513, as demonstrated by the lack of hour marker surrounds and the "200m = 660ft" text (the dials with 200m first are more valuable in the marketplace) There's not much standardization to the early Rolexes, particularly the early divers.. I personally wouldn't worry at all which came first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebzen02 341 Posted January 21, 2011 http://www.1-pc8838.com/rlsv01106-vintage-...est-p-9667.html Right dial But why is this a high beat 21J? Isn't the gen caliber 1520 19800Bph ? KBH is on.. Let us see what he says.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KBH 7 Posted January 21, 2011 I think that may be a mistake on his web site. It would be worth an e-mail since all 2813's I ever heard of are 21.6. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebzen02 341 Posted January 21, 2011 I think that may be a mistake on his web site. It would be worth an e-mail since all 2813's I ever heard of are 21.6. Akira.. If I were you I'd get that $98 5513, replace the dial with a Yuki, trim the CG's a little and call it a day..Oh..age it with A1 sauce and pee on the bezel so it fades a bit..think after all of the biofeuls you drink it should be tart and acidic enough.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akira 0 Posted January 22, 2011 Thanks KBH Josh's $98 has the same dial as this one No surroundings of markers and text is 200m=660ft SUBMARINER I'll check out if it's possible to get it with 21.6 Bph Cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akira 0 Posted January 22, 2011 I think that may be a mistake on his web site. It would be worth an e-mail since all 2813's I ever heard of are 21.6. I just got a message from Josh My Question was : Hi,is the RLSV01106 Vintage with Asia 2813 low or high beat. I would prefer it with 21Jewel and 19.800 Bph. Of course I made the mistake of saying 19.800Bph which is the gen caliber 1520 beat count. I should have said 21.600 Bph His answer: Hi Its 28800bph .The best there is. Other dealers are bullshiting that the low beat of their is better ... those are using used recon movt of the 70s !! Thanks joshua Good to know, I have to swap it then after the purchase Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebzen02 341 Posted January 22, 2011 No sauce then? What a crying shame! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10:10 Watch Repair 1 Posted January 22, 2011 pearl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KBH 7 Posted January 22, 2011 I'm still not buying it. I just spent 45 minutes on Google trying to verify any such thing as a hi-beat DG2813 from a reputable source and I can find nothing. Almost every post related to an alleged hi-beat 2813 is from a rep watch forum. And the Dixmont web site won't load in English, only Chinese. Somebody show me some proof. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akira 0 Posted January 22, 2011 I'll quote Luthier on this one (06:04 PM) Luthier - it just doesn't exist(06:05 PM) Luthier - 2813 is the catalog number of Dongfeng factory 21j mov't Is that enough proof for you it doesn't exist? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebzen02 341 Posted January 22, 2011 Luthier is married to Mary so he knows.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akira 0 Posted January 22, 2011 But Robert says (06:21 PM) prestigewatchco - Some 2813 have been 28800 they were difficult to find lately though . The 4813 will not fit the Rolex with a DW thats guaranteed they need a higher cannon and the factory have not made them for 2 years that way so none around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KBH 7 Posted January 22, 2011 Well, I do believe Robert knows his shit, but I'd still like to see something official, like a factory spec sheet or something, before I'm 100% convinced. I'm surprised that I can find nothing convincing on the Web. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akira 0 Posted January 23, 2011 Buying Josh's $98 5513 swapping in a 21,600 Bph 21J getting a Clark's crystal (how can I find out which one needed?) How is the quality of Clark's bezel inserts compared to the rep inserts? making it look vintage What do you think? KBH any more ideas? Cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akira 0 Posted January 23, 2011 They have a 5513 bezel insert is it more gen like? http://cgi.ebay.com/Bezel-Insert-5513-1-bl...b#ht_500wt_1156 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KBH 7 Posted January 23, 2011 I think it's a pretty good looking watch as is. All depends on how you want it to look. You could go for the old and beat up look or lightly aged or a "safe queen". It's all good. I spent an inordinate amount of time on the case back of my Great White just trying to get the laser etched engraving to look like it was old and worn. I put in a Clark domed crystal but used the more squared off domed crystal in a DRSD and actually liked it a lot better. Sorry, I can't tell you off the top what the Rolex tropic numbers were, but they're pretty easy to find on his web site or you can shoot Gary Clark an e mail and he'll set you up with the right one. If you want the aged look on the bezel insert, I used straight pool chlorine. It only took a matter of seconds, not minutes with straight chlorine and have some fresh water to wash it in right away. The pearl on mine got baked in a toaster oven for a few minutes. Here's the difference between the rep crystal and the Clark. Clark is slghtly taller but the rep crystal isn't bad. I had to change it since my rep crystal came with a crack and it wasn't at all water resistant. Also I drilled out the lug holes. You know you got to have those gen (like) spring bars to go with your A1 sauce dial. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RolexAddict 1 Posted January 25, 2011 Akira, follow KBH message, decrypt, and go ahead in your project Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akira 0 Posted January 25, 2011 Akira, follow KBH message, decrypt, and go ahead in your project I will buy the $98 Version. Fit in a 21.6 Bph 21J movement instead of the high beat. Trim the CG's Do the vintage insert chlorine thingy. Maybe change the crystal if I don't like the rep crystal. Maybe change the dial too. Make it look vintage.... Andei is sending me some lume he used for his 1675. Think it's a good watch then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
