JohnG 41 Posted January 25, 2011 yesterday, on RG, like nothing at all was wrong.... http://repgeek.com/showthread.php?t=126437&page=2 nice onecongrats __________________ ____________________________________ WTB: Angelus Cal 240 Movement, Rolex 618, Cortebert 616+ STOCKLIST: http://www.repgeek.com/showthread.php?t=63688 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg_r 81 Posted January 25, 2011 Hmm - he seems to have changed his sales tactics... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebzen02 341 Posted January 25, 2011 Hmm - he seems to have changed his sales tactics... @John..saw that..They should be banned or put on a moratorium and have this thing brought to an end. @G Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebzen02 341 Posted January 25, 2011 John.. Have you posted this over at W-C.. They should have plenty of pics of him hiding underneath Bigandwonderfuls trench coat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnG 41 Posted January 25, 2011 John.. Have you posted this over at W-C.. They should have plenty of pics of him hiding underneath Bigandwonderfuls trench coat. I told you, I just got UNBANNED, thanks to your help. I don't want to get RE-BANNED. And yeah, they should at least get rid of VDB's dealer section at RG, why is it still up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingle 57 Posted January 25, 2011 John.. Have you posted this over at W-C.. They should have plenty of pics of him hiding underneath Bigandwonderfuls trench coat. And yeah, they should at least get rid of VDB's dealer section at RG, why is it still up? great question. Pat? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnG 41 Posted January 25, 2011 John.. Have you posted this over at W-C.. They should have plenty of pics of him hiding underneath Bigandwonderfuls trench coat. And yeah, they should at least get rid of VDB's dealer section at RG, why is it still up? great question. Pat? SFA is VDB and I claim my five bottles of A-1 sauce... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfa437 0 Posted January 26, 2011 It's open for several reasons. One- the most important- is for those affected to air gripes and give VDB a chance to respond and try to make things right without it turning into a flame war with uninterested parties chiming in but still be public. Second is a safe haven so to speak where he can discuss the goings on regarding his work. He does deserve the chance to defend his actions and business. Third is that there is SO much info out there already, across all the forums, that closing his section is essentially a waste of time. Those who are in the market for a high end vintage know what's happened. I personally advocated closing the section but the above reasons were enough for me to realize that VDB has a chance to make things right. While his business has tanked and most likely will not recover there are still outstanding issues and questions that need to be resolved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brightlight 0 Posted January 26, 2011 It's open for several reasons. One- the most important- is for those affected to air gripes and give VDB a chance to respond and try to make things right without it turning into a flame war with uninterested parties chiming in but still be public. Second is a safe haven so to speak where he can discuss the goings on regarding his work. He does deserve the chance to defend his actions and business. Third is that there is SO much info out there already, across all the forums, that closing his section is essentially a waste of time. Those who are in the market for a high end vintage know what's happened. I personally advocated closing the section but the above reasons were enough for me to realize that VDB has a chance to make things right. While his business has tanked and most likely will not recover there are still outstanding issues and questions that need to be resolved. Allowing him to comment on other people's builds just seems a little sick to me. The guy is clearly a scammer, there is enough pictorial evidence across the boards and written evidence from people like Ziggy who have had to sort out his problem movements and many others to make this clear. If Josh or Robert or any of the dealers had scammed in this manner they would be closed down and banned immediately. How does he deserve the chance to defend his scams and lies and to continue as if nothing actually happened? It just seems wrong that RG are giving VDB a courtesy that wouldn't be given to other scammers. Surely he has an email address where any such matters can be sorted out privately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg_r 81 Posted January 26, 2011 No more sightings of VDB, but I saw his dog... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Del 4,435 Posted January 26, 2011 - great cartoon Greg . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sconehead 5 Posted January 26, 2011 VDB ate my pet budgie... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andygt 0 Posted January 26, 2011 There's a guy works down the chip shop swears he's VDB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sconehead 5 Posted January 26, 2011 There's a guy works down the chip shop swears he's VDB ...well he's a liar and I'm not sure about you... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SERGEANT_AT_ARMS 0 Posted January 28, 2011 Seal of approval http://www.rwgforum.com/topic/127746-3646-finally-done/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg_r 81 Posted January 28, 2011 eh? That's nice - and not a VDB watch (the lack of A1 sauce is a dead giveaway). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnG 41 Posted January 28, 2011 Seal of approval http://www.rwgforum.com/topic/127746-3646-finally-done/ Absolutely gorgeous!!!! Love the rivet dial, welds look great, cb, everything!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SERGEANT_AT_ARMS 0 Posted January 28, 2011 eh? That's nice - and not a VDB watch (the lack of A1 sauce is a dead giveaway). Couldn't agree more, the watch is beautiful. Apparently VDB agrees, as his post in the thread approves: nice rivet congrats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg_r 81 Posted January 28, 2011 Ah - completely missed that. Thanks for delivering me from my confusion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfa437 0 Posted January 28, 2011 Just to clarify- VDB is not allowed to sell on RG. Those people interested in a high end vintage watch essentially already know about the goings on from threads on every forum in creation. The best result is for those affected to either be refunded or to have other corrective measures taken that satisfy the complaint. We felt that allowing him the ability to respond & communicate with the end user was important to reach a resolution. Don't forget these watches have changed hands several times in some instances and the end user might not have comms with VDB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brightlight 0 Posted January 28, 2011 Just to clarify- VDB is not allowed to sell on RG. Those people interested in a high end vintage watch essentially already know about the goings on from threads on every forum in creation. The best result is for those affected to either be refunded or to have other corrective measures taken that satisfy the complaint. We felt that allowing him the ability to respond & communicate with the end user was important to reach a resolution. Don't forget these watches have changed hands several times in some instances and the end user might not have comms with VDB. He should have to wear a placard round his fucking neck "Unclean. Scammer" and be forced to ring a warning bell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PatronSaintofChainsaws 1 Posted January 28, 2011 He should have to wear a placard round his fucking neck "Unclean. Scammer" and be forced to ring a warning bell. Well he didn't make a run for it, so there's at least some integrity to be found. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brightlight 0 Posted January 28, 2011 He should have to wear a placard round his fucking neck "Unclean. Scammer" and be forced to ring a warning bell. Well he didn't make a run for it, so there's at least some integrity to be found. Problem is he doesn't seem to realise what he's done wrong, that's not integrity that's stupidity. As my Gran used to say "where there's no sense there's no feeling". Put yourself in that position, if you'd been caught out in shady dealings would you be posting 'Nice rivets'?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sconehead 5 Posted January 28, 2011 He should have to wear a placard round his fucking neck "Unclean. Scammer" and be forced to ring a warning bell. Well he didn't make a run for it, so there's at least some integrity to be found. Problem is he doesn't seem to realise what he's done wrong, that's not integrity that's stupidity. As my Gran used to say "where there's no sense there's no feeling". Put yourself in that position, if you'd been caught out in shady dealings would you be posting 'Nice rivets'?? ...maybe he is suffering from a rivet fetish that overides his common sense? ...that or he's hallucinating from imbibing all those bottles of sauce he has surplus to requirement... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
