porschespeedster 19 Posted July 12, 2016 man, that dial/hands/case setup screams 'gen.' congrats on a great 'mash-up' build. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Godfathar 1 Posted July 12, 2016 ^^ This one is for sure deserves a super rep status, and it's not a franken to be able to reach gen over all look. this one really screams gen like you said.. it's funny to realize you can reach that level with just thinking outside the box, and mixing different parts from different factories. it's that simple.. on the other hand the process wasn't as easy as I may have put it, maybe Kenny could pitch in with more details,, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stevestown 0 Posted July 12, 2016 Spectacular! Congrats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boredpanda 1 Posted July 12, 2016 Anyhow, it might be worth doing 2x AR and relume on these! Seeing how much effort you've already spent on it. The lume on your 5980 is amazing Relume yes but I don't think gen Pateks have double AR either Correct and white dials definitely don't need the AR. What an amzing build GF! Can't stop looking at the photos! Do white dial suffer less from reflection? Didn't know that =p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantomtech 4 Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) Anyhow, it might be worth doing 2x AR and relume on these! Seeing how much effort you've already spent on it. The lume on your 5980 is amazing Relume yes but I don't think gen Pateks have double AR either Correct and white dials definitely don't need the AR. What an amzing build GF! Can't stop looking at the photos! Do white dial suffer less from reflection? Didn't know that =p They actually do. When there is a dark background behind a glass then the reflection is very strong, when it is a light background then it isn't. My white dialed watches with AR look almost identical to the white dials without AR. Whereas my black dials are worlds apart. Edited July 12, 2016 by Phantomtech Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Godfathar 1 Posted July 12, 2016 ^^ It's true about the white dial as phantomtech said.. but nevertheless, With this one I'll stick to the none AR crystal as the gen doesn't have one. But hopefully will relume it one day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bipbip 0 Posted July 23, 2016 Last march, I have experimented with yet another Nautilus 5711A project idea, only this time it is the white dial. It is obvious that the white dial is not very demanded among the Patek enthusiasts, as you can tell by the lower price of the white dial gen when compared to the well sought after 5711A blue dial, but over here at the rep world, I wanted to let you know that the white dial 5711 is truly astonishing, and it is by all means the closest rep to the gen. Unfortunately, just like all the super reps, you will not find it over the counter, you will have to work on reaching that level of accuracy and closeness to the gen white dial 5711. what I mean is that you have to mod the watch to get to have a watch on the wrist that is practically impossible to call out. the most important aspect to this theory is that you get the thinnest possible watch you find out there for the white dial 5711. In this case reach out for the 5711A BP V.1 with white dial. The construction of the case is the thinnest among all the other decorated Miyota movement cases. Yes it is undecorated, and that's the reason for being able to make it closest to gen in terms of thickness. The gen is 8.5 mm including both crystals, the BP v.1 is 9.1 mm, now that's the closest you can ever get from all the reps in the market today. Only problem, is that the BP V.1 has a weak printing on the dial, the printing is so thin, that you can see that something is wrong with the dial unfortunately, also unlike the BP V.1 blue dial, the white dial didn't get the upgraded thicker hands, actually it's funny to know that the BP V.1 white dial has silver thin hands, not even matching the markers on the dial which have a black sheen to them, they look so odd on the watch, so the dial is not up with the quality of print, and the hands are completely wrong color and size, but again the case construction is the perfect size for this project. Now if you look around for the best dial and hands, you will find that the 5711 white dial from MKF is so high quality, and very very very close to gen. I have been always impressed by the attention to details of the MK factory, but I never agreed with their decision of wanting to decorate the Miyota and making their watches thicker to host the decorated fake bridge. but their dial and hands are just exquisite. so what I did last March is purchase only the hands and white dial from MKF, and send it to Kenny to swap them with the white dial and hands of the BP V.1 which I also purchased at the same time from Toro... Long story short, it is done, but not as easy as we thought, Kenny had to re-size and re-shape the MKF dial to be able to fit it in place of the BP white dial, also he told me that the MKF dial is a bit thicker, so he was afraid that the thickness of the new dial will press on the movement and particularly on the date wheel and stop it from turning, so he made a custom bracket to hold it far from the date wheel. And after few months of wait, I received today what I believe personally is the super rep of the Nautilus. the 5711A white dial. BP V.1 case, MKF white dial and matching hands. Here are the pics.. When I first received the BP V.1 , you can see how the dial is weak, and so obvious that the hands are completely the wrong size and color. This is the MKF white dial and matching hands, obviously better quality printing on the dial, and correct size and color hands. Kenny doing his magic, this is after fixing all the issues and successfully installing the MKF dial and hands on the BP V.1 case. It's as close as you would be able to get in thickness to the gen couple of wrist shots are in order: Sorry to ask but who is MKF ? Thanks Envoyé de mon iPad en utilisant Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakethemouse 0 Posted July 24, 2016 MKF is the factory the watch came from e.g BP, Noob. Correct me if I'm wrong guys. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowtiefanatc 16 Posted July 25, 2016 ^^Yup, MKF is just the name of one of the makers (factories). It has noticeable differences from BP factory Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gazzla 23 Posted July 25, 2016 A very nice watch and superbly modded. :thumbsup: Super Rep: A replica watch virtually indistinguishable from the genuine article. The exhibition caseback showing the movement is an obvious difference. Not a 'Super Rep'. Ale's Pam Guide is the reference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulvillo 364 Posted July 26, 2016 That is simply stunning! Congrats for the build mate. Not sure if it's been addressed already, but how different is the rep bracelet from the gen? Weight and feel? Cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantomtech 4 Posted July 26, 2016 A very nice watch and superbly modded. :thumbsup: Super Rep: A replica watch virtually indistinguishable from the genuine article. The exhibition caseback showing the movement is an obvious difference. Not a 'Super Rep'. Ale's Pam Guide is the reference. Can't argue with that logic. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulvillo 364 Posted July 26, 2016 A very nice watch and superbly modded. :thumbsup: Super Rep: A replica watch virtually indistinguishable from the genuine article. The exhibition caseback showing the movement is an obvious difference. Not a 'Super Rep'. Ale's Pam Guide is the reference. Can't argue with that logic. Going to agree to disagree. I mean, though logic to beat of course, but been worrying a lot more about weight and feel on the wrist lately. Could live with an inaccurate CB, but rep bracelets such as the ones found in Rolex reps just don't do it for me - hence my question about the quality on these PP reps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Godfathar 1 Posted July 26, 2016 I guess the "super rep" discussion could be interpreted in many different ways depending on the person, mine is that the watch is virtually indistinguishable from the genuine on my wrist. wither it has the wrong movement on the back, or not, doesn't really concern me at all, as I never ever ever would give the opportunity to take it off for no one, never have, never will. And to be clear, yes the watch could be enhanced even more, but without making the watch a "franken rep" I think this level is satisfactory to me to have it indistinguishable when I wear it on my wrist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulvillo 364 Posted July 26, 2016 I guess the "super rep" discussion could be interpreted in many different ways depending on the person, mine is that the watch is virtually indistinguishable from the genuine on my wrist. wither it has the wrong movement on the back, or not, doesn't really concern me at all, as I never ever ever would give the opportunity to take it off for no one, never have, never will. And to be clear, yes the watch could be enhanced even more, but without making the watch a "franken rep" I think this level is satisfactory to me to have it indistinguishable when I wear it on my wrist. Definitely. That's why I wonder about the quality of the bracelet. Can you tell me how does it compare with Noob's and the likes of it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Godfathar 1 Posted July 26, 2016 ^^ well it's not the best I have experienced. It's average to be honest. A bit stiff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulvillo 364 Posted July 26, 2016 Thanks mate. Noob bracelets I know (especially the Glidelock ones) bother the crap out of me. They feel cheap and flimsy to touch and on the wrist, and I just can't live with them. Great project, outstanding results! Wear it in the best of health! Cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gmtaddict 1 Posted July 27, 2016 About the bracelet, i have never got one that was comparable to a Gen, I don't think you can replicate the Gen feel at a Rep cost Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Godfathar 1 Posted July 27, 2016 ^^ to my understanding. I don't think he was comparing the rep bracelet with the gen, but more like comparing with other rep bracelet quality Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulvillo 364 Posted July 27, 2016 ^^ to my understanding. I don't think he was comparing the rep bracelet with the gen, but more like comparing with other rep bracelet quality Exactly and awesome shot! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slaughterer 0 Posted August 28, 2016 Did this Godfather white dial build myself as well recently. Nice pay off: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gmtaddict 1 Posted August 29, 2016 Great job. Can you give us more details about fitting the dial: is this just a simple swap or you need to do something so that the date disc doesn't touch the new dial? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Godfathar 1 Posted August 29, 2016 (edited) ^^ Unfortunately it's not a simple swap. Mine is back with Kenny as the DW slipped and now uncentered. :( slaughterer did a great job. And now I gave Kenny his suggestions on how to tackle the problem. Edited August 29, 2016 by Godfathar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantomtech 4 Posted August 29, 2016 Did this Godfather white dial build myself as well recently. Nice pay off: Wow what a pic, making me drool.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamsonAusKognito 31 Posted September 3, 2016 Stunning watch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites