Taimaru 0 Posted November 23, 2017 Hey so I just recently received my patek 5711 from the PF factory and I wanted to know how reliable it's going to be under water and if its not what have you guys done to get it waterproofed? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thrichar 47 Posted November 23, 2017 Mate - I wouldn't recommend even looking at a glass of water wearing a rep! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taimaru 0 Posted November 23, 2017 Has anyone gotten theirs waterproofed then? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thommo82 1,397 Posted November 23, 2017 Yep, don't wear it in the water, be careful even washing your hands. See if any of your local watchsmiths are willing to work on reps and see if they will do it for you Or... Just take it off before you go for a swim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
black263 228 Posted November 23, 2017 Quite a few reps have decent water-resistance, but it varies from individual watch to individual watch. The only way is to have it tested. You don't say where you live but in UK, most shopping malls have a Timpsons, and they do dry WR testing for a couple of pounds. (My local one just asks for a donation in their charity box) It's always worth a test before paying for someone to do WR treatment. I am then happy getting it wet, (think rain or splashes from hand washing)but without a proper wet test, which is not so readily available, I still wouldn't swim with one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
black263 228 Posted November 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Taimaru said: Has anyone gotten theirs waterproofed then? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk No watch is waterproof, and the ISO testing prohibits the use of the term. They are water-resistant to varying levels. Google Water Resistant for lots of information. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadApple 13,081 Posted November 23, 2017 I've showered and swam with a few of my reps without an issue. However when I go deep sea diving........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheSav 2 Posted November 23, 2017 Man, I don't even shower with my Gens! Think steam, condensation etc. Don't know why you'd want to shower with a watch anyway. OP I wouldn't assume that any rep is water resistant in the slightest unless you've had it tested. Even then i'd be weary as you need to remember the conditions and budget they are manufactured to. First point of call would be a watchsmith or one of the trusted tinkerers. However, for the money you are likely to pay, you'd be better off getting a cheap seiko or the like for swimming duties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenTLe 1,503 Posted November 23, 2017 17 hours ago, Taimaru said: Has anyone gotten theirs waterproofed then? Yes: 1st you need a screw-down crown and case-back watch. Then grease the gaskets (case back and crown ones) with silicon grease and close the caseback well. Finally test it at like 5 bar. IF it passes the test then you can swim in it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
black263 228 Posted November 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, GenTLe said: Yes: 1st you need a screw-down crown and case-back watch. Then grease the gaskets (case back and crown ones) with silicon grease and close the caseback well. Finally test it at like 5 bar. IF it passes the test then you can swim in it. You only need a tiny amount of grease on the o-rings. The grease does nothing whatever for water-resistance; that occurs when the o-ring is compressed between the mating surfaces. The grease simply makes the o-ring slippery so it doesn't get deformed by the rotating metal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glaude 1,615 Posted November 23, 2017 15 minutes ago, black263 said: You only need a tiny amount of grease on the o-rings. The grease does nothing whatever for water-resistance; that occurs when the o-ring is compressed between the mating surfaces. The grease simply makes the o-ring slippery so it doesn't get deformed by the rotating metal. Complete noob assumption here : grease being hydrophobic, wouldn't this provide a way better seal, hence the "waterproofing" being better ? Especially in such a tight fit ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
black263 228 Posted November 24, 2017 6 hours ago, Glaude said: Complete noob assumption here : grease being hydrophobic, wouldn't this provide a way better seal, hence the "waterproofing" being better ? Especially in such a tight fit ? You don't grease tap washers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henrychinaski 2 Posted November 24, 2017 All my reps are waterproof Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taimaru 0 Posted November 24, 2017 All my reps are waterproof How?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thommo82 1,397 Posted November 24, 2017 37 minutes ago, Taimaru said: How? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He keeps them in cryovac sealed bags Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McGilli 1 Posted November 24, 2017 For the uninitiated - how is the testing done? When I want to test if somethings water proof/resistant I put it in water That might not work in this case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thommo82 1,397 Posted November 24, 2017 1 hour ago, McGilli said: For the uninitiated - how is the testing done? When I want to test if somethings water proof/resistant I put it in water That might not work in this case. That will work, watch might not though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Griffo 6 Posted November 24, 2017 There was a chap on here who dropped his reps in a glass of water. Can’t remember who it was. Try that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
black263 228 Posted November 24, 2017 2 hours ago, McGilli said: For the uninitiated - how is the testing done? When I want to test if somethings water proof/resistant I put it in water That might not work in this case. http://watchmakingblog.com/2008/05/12/water-tests-explained/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glaude 1,615 Posted November 24, 2017 10 hours ago, black263 said: You don't grease tap washers. I was refereing to this : Quote You only need a tiny amount of grease on the o-rings. The grease does nothing whatever for water-resistance and this : Quote Then grease the gaskets (case back and crown ones) with silicon grease and close the caseback well The hydrophobic propriety of grease isn't useful there ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McGilli 1 Posted November 25, 2017 14 hours ago, black263 said: http://watchmakingblog.com/2008/05/12/water-tests-explained/ Thanks - That was really interesting especially about trying to dry test a Rolex Submariner.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majwilliams0308 0 Posted December 21, 2017 I get worried giving my kids a bath with a rep on - one Rolex rep got condensation inside just from me putting my watch underwater. As a rule now, I just make sure I only use the reps that have been waterproof tested. Most, if not all, can withstand washing hands or light rain, but beyond that, I wouldn't trust them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andyboy 5 Posted January 15, 2018 Not a review. Moved to General Discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites