Ok ok I say WOW! It’s the ARF DAYTONA 116500LN (very pic heavy)

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4 hours ago, drifterr said:

 

Thanks for the reply. I figured out how to measure my watch (yes I'm an idiot), and it is 39.5 mm so am relieved. I didn't want to wear it out since I received it fearing it was smaller than the gen. TY.

A tag calibre 16 is 43mm case. Thickness I believe is 14mm or 15mm can't remember

The daytona is 39mm. And 12.7 mm so yes it's quite a small watch but it's meant to be invisible on the wrist mate.

Ill post a picture of my gen tag 1887 and Daytona for your reference

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Good afternoon to you all around the globe! 
Firstly I’d like to say thank you to RWG for having us in our time of need. I woke up this morning and wanted to try give something back while we're on hiatus!
Every now and then a watch comes along which takes the hobby a whole leap up. I think this ARF Rolex Daytona is one of them. I think people focusing on the non Chrono part of this movement are missing out big time. This watch is barely thicker than the gen and sits perfectly on the wrist. I’d take that over functioning Chronos any day of the week and the big second hand working is the cherry on the cake so you can’t really call it out. 
In all my years in this hobby I had never even given the Daytona a second thought due to the previous versions being obscenely thick clunker compared to Gen which is a super obvious tell. Then along comes the ARF Daytona in 904l steel. Honestly this watch is special looking. I’ve been lucky enough to own 4 gen ceramic rollies in my time and I do think the “shine” that gen owners speak of is very present and near perfect on the ARF. I tend to be obsessed with modding every watch in my collection. This one only needed the bracelet to have a night in baby oil and the rotor silencing. As the old saying goes, it’s “running like a champ!”
A few years back I once tried the original white dial Daytona and felt it wore way too small than my gen hulk. The ceramic bezel  was such a great addition and beefs it up a bit! 
The cost of this watch in gen form is hugely inflated especially here where I live  (they are selling like hot cakes on Blowers etc for £15k which is amazing to me!) honestly I personally feel this thing is so well made I’m getting a ton of the enjoyment before even modding it! 
I would also say fellow members beware on QC pics I think people have gone a bit mad on rejecting these watches for silly reasons that you can’t see on the wrist. There’s even gens on the TRF 116500 thread with slightly misaligned 60 markers on the bezels! Mine was delivered in 3 days flat days before Xmas from Sead’s EU stock because it had been rejected and I’m so happy with it. Even in some of my pictures you will see the bezel markers look a little flat but in real life and on the wrist it’s perfect IMO no paint mods needed here! 
As always I will let the pictures do the talking and see what you, the real professionals, think. 






























When David meets Goliath!



Wristies!









Gen on top Rep on bottom



 

I am not trying to rubbish your thread or even the purchase if this beauty but i have read that no rep has or will ever be produced in 901l steel and the enourmous cost to install the machines would not be financially viable especially as the end result is minor.

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[imjustabasicman 0]

Looks great!

[drifterr 0]

I am not trying to rubbish your thread or even the purchase if this beauty but i have read that no rep has or will ever be produced in 901l steel and the enourmous cost to install the machines would not be financially viable especially as the end result is minor.

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There is an independent lab test report floating on the forums confirming the use of 904 steel. Obviously it ain't going to be Rolex standards but it's been validated by one of the members.



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There is an independent lab test report floating on the forums confirming the use of 904 steel. Obviously it ain't going to be Rolex standards but it's been validated by one of the members.



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Can you point us which post is it?

[drifterr 0]

Can you point us which post is it?

I'll try and find it. Can't remember which forums. As I am on all.

I think it was on the geek and also rwi .



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I’ve seen the post too! Think it’s RG. @Beau7816 think you underestimate how much they make from these reps when they takeoff! Bare in mind our forum purchases account for a very very small percentage of TD sales. They are making millions on totally basic reps let alone the likes of a Noob V7 which they must sell thousands of every new release (V3-V7 etc on so many different models now) it’s a massive business I wish I owned ARF they got a license to print money with their last 3 reps and now Deepsea’s new Daydates etc on the way. The Chinese don’t mess about when it comes to copying things what they won’t do is give flawless movements etc because the people putting them all together aren’t trained or in the right conditions. But machines they know and will pay the money to make it happen.i think it was JF factory that bought a Gen Conept ROO just to rep it  

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On 9. 1. 2018 at 19:42, Beau7816 said:

I am not trying to rubbish your thread or even the purchase if this beauty but i have read that no rep has or will ever be produced in 901l steel and the enourmous cost to install the machines would not be financially viable especially as the end result is minor.

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Did you have to quote the entire first post to share your wisdom?

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On ‎24‎.‎12‎.‎2017 at 11:45, NCRich said:

I think it can be agreed that you are all morons. 

 

 

 

 

Merry Christmas! 

I would say in the case of this watch that it is an awful lot to pay for a watch that has a movement that costs less than $20.  It has the same movement and is exactly 1mm thinner than a frozen chrono Regtona, and that is really indistinguishable on the wrist.  And on the Regtona the dial marker at 3 is straight, however the red printing is a bit less sharp.  I have had them both in my hands, and ground the 1mm off the back of the Regtona.  But that ARF is almost 5 times as much and over what I will pay for a toy watch.

That is what is wonderful about this hobby.  Opinions and tastes vary.  Enjoy your watch.

you have made a Point there, the Price tag on the arf is very hefty.

how reliable is this movement?

what are your experiences with the regtona?

[jmkgl 1]

I saw a Gen last night during dinner and I didnt notice any difference than this one....wow..

[Robert11 0]

Anyone watching the Vikings and Saints game now notice Troy Aikman wearing his white dial Daytona? Great looking watch. So cost aside what’s the consensus is the this ARF closest to gen?

 

 

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[NCRich 13,744]

2 minutes ago, Robert11 said:

Anyone watching the Vikings and Saints game now notice Troy Aikman wearing his white dial Daytona? Great looking watch. So cost aside what’s the consensus is the this ARF closest to gen?

 

 

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LOL, if you don't mind buying a non functional chrono.  For 3 times what it should cost.  Otherwise, it is great.

 

[Robert11 0]

LOL, if you don't mind buying a non functional chrono.  For 3 times what it should cost.  Otherwise, it is great.
 

So then what’s closer to a gen in your opinion? There are plenty of high quality reps where the complication functionality does not match the gen. Even a noob v7 sub with 2836 is an instant tell if you hand it to someone and they try and set the time. But I agree this one is quite expensive. My guess is because of the higher costs associated with 904.


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[NCRich 13,744]

6 minutes ago, Robert11 said:

 

So then what’s closer to a gen in your opinion? There are plenty of high quality reps where the complication functionality does not match the gen. Even a noob v7 sub with 2836 is an instant tell if you hand it to someone and they try and set the time. But I agree this one is quite expensive. My guess is because of the higher costs associated with 904.


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There is nothing closer to the gen.  It is not close to the gen as it doesn't function at all.  904 is a stupid thing, and I'm not convinced that it even exists.

Your money,  I'd buy a different rep.........that's just me.  Its your money.

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There’s nothing closer but it’s not close? Not sure what your saying. You still didn’t give a better alternative.

 

 

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27 minutes ago, NCRich said:

There is nothing closer to the gen.  It is not close to the gen as it doesn't function at all.  904 is a stupid thing, and I'm not convinced that it even exists.

Your money,  I'd buy a different rep.........that's just me.  Its your money.

Can I hug you ? *Like* ! 

And if it's really important to you to have the absolute closest to gen, well why not, but you might want to dive into Franken thing to achieve that.
But if it is that you can handle the watch to someone and pass it for gen, that's kind of bad...
By the way I don't know with what people you guys hang out, but in my close and even far social interaction, I have absolutely nobody that can spot anything wrong with 99 % of the rep on the market... but like Rich... that's just me

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23 minutes ago, Robert11 said:

There’s nothing closer but it’s not close? Not sure what your saying. You still didn’t give a better alternative.

 

 

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Friend you have to do some research.  There are no better alternatives.  No movement replicates this well.  Volumes written on it.  Best alternative is to but a different rep,  You want something that approximates the daytona, buy a daytona from Reg.  AKA narikaa.  Its not close either but its cheap.

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On 2017-12-23 at 19:05, Glaude said:

Keep it in English here, that's better for everybody.

And no 904 isn't whiter than 316L take a look at every thread about it on every watch forum or steel forum.
You can have the same result with 316L steel.

Your aggressivity is totally unnecessary by the way, you can disagree with me, don't need to be rude and a smartass with it.

Hmm, i think yes, 904L is whiter and and more brilliant and durable.
I could compare genuine with a watchmaker and he convinced me and educated about it.

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5 minutes ago, chrismac said:

Hmm, i think yes, 904L is whiter and and more brilliant and durable.
I could compare genuine with a watchmaker and he convinced me and educated about it.

A koolaide snorter.

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1 minute ago, NCRich said:

A koolaide snorter.

Hmm, explain me about your expression since English is not my mother language, and as you are moderator, i imagine that it is neither sarcasm nor bad words, but only positive words.

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1 hour ago, chrismac said:

Hmm, i think yes, 904L is whiter and and more brilliant and durable.
I could compare genuine with a watchmaker and he convinced me and educated about it.

No, but lets not start this futile debate again since my eyes doesn't allow me to see the durability of a material, I'm not equiped to survive that debate

[blehbleh215 0]

The Modern Panda is so good.

How does the ceramic feel?

[the_datta 0]

Hell of a watch and great pictures! I feel like my gripwnover the non working chronos need to take a back seat haha considering the price discrepancy 

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5 hours ago, NCRich said:

There is nothing closer to the gen.  It is not close to the gen as it doesn't function at all.  904 is a stupid thing, and I'm not convinced that it even exists.

Your money,  I'd buy a different rep.........that's just me.  Its your money.

Exactly HIS money , MY money , I am the proud owner of the ARF White face too .

 

Not sure why you are so down on the watch and him seems a lot deeper than an opinion . So you don't like the watch we get it 

[drifterr 0]

It's amazing. Compared with a gen today side by side and this is really close to gen.

My mate couldn't believe it.


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