stüssi 0 Posted January 9, 2018 Hi all, Today I have received my new JF 16610 from Sead. As many of you seem to be on the fence of whether they want to buy the watch or not I thought I make a little review. First of all, I already owned the first version of the LV last summer and was not impressed by it due to the bad datewheel and very wokky rehaut. However as I do not have a TC and I really like the 16610 I decided to give JF another chance. As you can see from the picture the rehaut now is not wokky at all and IMO looks great without the engravings. In addition to that I was positively surprised by the datewheel. It seems as JF has improved the font considerably and thinned it, however I believe it's still a tinny fraction to bold. I have decided to leave the watch for now as it is and wear it stock until the movement needs to be serviced. I also think the bracelet polishing, which was a bit too "deep" in previous versions has been addressed. In general, I don't think anyone will ever be called out wearing this watch on the wrist. Lastly the bracelet of my old LV broke down very quickly and so far the LN bracelet is holding up well but it is too early for a final verdict and I also don't know if they have improved the SEL connection or not. To summarise I can strongly recommend the watch to anyone looking for a nice 16610 which is good out of the box. For 400USD (shipping included) and the SH3135 movement there is not much to complain about. I am looking forward to hear your comments and thoughts. Do you guys think a crystal and datewheel change is still a "mandatory" upgrade? On to the pictures: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stüssi 0 Posted January 9, 2018 thanks for looking! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rokerite 2,441 Posted January 9, 2018 Nice watch and great pictures Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadPickle 2,746 Posted January 9, 2018 maybe its the pic angle, but that triangle looks way way off. can you post side by side pics of the wokky and non wokky rehaut please Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stüssi 0 Posted January 9, 2018 I haven't noticed the triangle, will try to make another picture from the front later on. At least it is not something which I noticed in the QC pics and also not now in the flesh. Unfortunately I sold the LV so I cannot take pics of the wokky rehaut. I think it is visible here: https://www.intime02.co/rollie/3574-submariner-16610lv-ss-jf-1-1-best-edition-black-dial-green-bezel-on-sh3135.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadPickle 2,746 Posted January 9, 2018 Didn’t you get QC pics of the LV? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stüssi 0 Posted January 9, 2018 found some old pictures - quite a big difference to the latest version. But love the LV, probably have to get that one too one day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suk 0 Posted January 9, 2018 It looks fantastic!Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stüssi 0 Posted January 9, 2018 I just noticed that the bezel click could be better, does anyone know which clickspring from ebay is the best? Clarks? WSO? Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thrasher 135 Posted January 9, 2018 I think it really looks great, Though I would still change the DW. The Crystal looks very nice. Hope the bracelet issue is solved and I would say this is super nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raphaeeel 0 Posted January 10, 2018 Very good looking ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amstaffs 0 Posted January 10, 2018 The watch looks good. However, at that pricepoint I'd still be patient and try to get my hands on a TC. The V6 and on might cost you 100$ more stock, but it has none of the weaknesses the JF comes along with. Just my 2 cents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raphaeeel 0 Posted January 10, 2018 TC v6 for 500 bucks !! Where is it ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_datta 0 Posted January 10, 2018 Damnnice watch. For sure next on the list for me! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stüssi 0 Posted January 10, 2018 4 hours ago, amstaffs said: The watch looks good. However, at that pricepoint I'd still be patient and try to get my hands on a TC. The V6 and on might cost you 100$ more stock, but it has none of the weaknesses the JF comes along with. Just my 2 cents. Not sure I agree as the TC has the ETA clone whereby here you get for 400USD the SH3135 and now the DW does not look too bad. Quite a nice watch without any mods. another wristy: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nikosaldente 630 Posted January 10, 2018 Looking great there mate! I'm in the process of building the same on my own! Enjoy wearing it in the best of health! Cheers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imjustabasicman 0 Posted January 10, 2018 Could someone help me explain how to separate a "wokky" rehaut from the non-wokky one? I am about to order myself a JF 16610LN aswell but i am afraid if i get a QC i might not be able to see if its the "wokky" version or not. Thanks in advance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serkan 0 Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) Would definitely change the DW, apart from that the watch looks great. Edited January 12, 2018 by Serkan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bora12 0 Posted January 12, 2018 Thanks for sharing. I just bought the 16610 LV but I'm replacing with a gen LN insert, gen crystal, and gen datewheel. My QC pictures looked absolutely amazing. I personally think this watch is as good or better value than the TC. JF has seriously stepped up their game and everyone who I shared my QC pictures with (a number of pretty dedicated 5 digit sub lovers) were blown away with the quality.If anyone is interested in seeing my QC album I'd be happy to share. I will be posting a review + a thread about my Franken project when I can.Sent from my SM-T350 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raphaeeel 0 Posted January 13, 2018 I’m very interested about your Qc pics if you got a link to share I would very happy ! Thank you mate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RepTime 0 Posted January 13, 2018 4 hours ago, Raphaeeel said: I’m very interested about your Qc pics if you got a link to share I would very happy ! Thank you mate You gotta pm him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUSH2112 11 Posted January 13, 2018 I guess I’m confused. What can be wockier than a watch that is supposed to have an engraved rehaut that doesn’t have it? The reason you want a well engraved straight rehaut is to make it closer to gen, how does not having it at all accomplish this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RepTime 0 Posted January 13, 2018 2 hours ago, RUSH2112 said: I guess I’m confused. What can be wockier than a watch that is supposed to have an engraved rehaut that doesn’t have it? The reason you want a well engraved straight rehaut is to make it closer to gen, how does not having it at all accomplish this? I think what he means is that the older version (with the engraved rehaut) was/is more wokky compared to the newer version (without the engraved rehaut) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_datta 0 Posted January 15, 2018 I think I would definitely change the datewheel. Gen is affordable but there are cheaper alts on ebay. I have also heard of people changing the bezel assembly too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GingerApple 7,285 Posted January 15, 2018 On 13/01/2018 at 11:36, RUSH2112 said: I guess I’m confused. What can be wockier than a watch that is supposed to have an engraved rehaut that doesn’t have it? The reason you want a well engraved straight rehaut is to make it closer to gen, how does not having it at all accomplish this? The older Gens did NOT have an engraved rehault; it was only the later models. The older, non engraved versions are more sought after by collectors. At least that's what I read somewhere. If you look on Chrono24 out similar, you can clearly see the older versions have no rehault engraving. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites