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So I have researched and taken some time, but want to hear from people who own the watch. Which is better MK or PF for the Nautilus?

Thinking of getting the Gray Face edition. 

Any first hand reviews? 

 

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Jholmeson

Haven't had the MK in hand but I have the PF and have had the BP - from reviews, the MK has a nicer dial but is thicker and to me the Patek aesthetic is all about thinness, so I went with PF.

Make sure to QC for marker alignment issues though, seems to be a recurring problem with this batch of PF.

It's a beautiful watch, I wear it more than any other - so versatile & understated. Enjoy it!

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Cmak2017

What are the marker alignment issues? how bad are they? 

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BlockSize

From what I’ve seen just on TB’s site the 12 o clock markers are not lined up and look bad on the pictures, you’d think they’d put the cream of the crop on the preview models

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nivka

The pf is sensational on the wrist. Marker alignment is only an issue on photos

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RussP

WTF are these acronyms anyway?

MK?

PF?

BP?

ARF?

I've been around a while and these things still confuse the hell out of me.

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nivka
WTF are these acronyms anyway?
MK?
PF?
BP?
ARF?
I've been around a while and these things still confuse the hell out of me.


They’re just various factories.

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RussP

Oh, I realise that they're factories.

But what does that actually mean in the scheme of things?

Which factories are better, overall?

Or are some preferred for some brands over others?

Is a product that's allegedly made in BP significantly better than PF?

So many questions................so little time.

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Thommo82
45 minutes ago, RussP said:

WTF are these acronyms anyway?

MK?

PF?

BP?

ARF?

I've been around a while and these things still confuse the hell out of me.

Mortal Kombat Factory

Pnuematic Fellatio Factory

Bumbling Pervert Factory

Autonomous  Robotic Female, um, Factory

 

Hope this helps Russ.

@brang1 was the one who informed me 

 

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RussP

You n Brang have this bromance happening.

Been on a mandate yet?

 

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Thommo82
4 minutes ago, RussP said:

You n Brang have this bromance happening.

Been on a mandate yet?

 

He keeps hitting me up

He knows I’m heterosexual, he just doesn’t like it 

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brang1

Just not into beastiality is all, I mean, we may have derived from apes, doesn’t mean I wanna fuck one 

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Thommo82

Dude, I’m a Gibbon 

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nivka
Oh, I realise that they're factories.
But what does that actually mean in the scheme of things?
Which factories are better, overall?
Or are some preferred for some brands over others?
Is a product that's allegedly made in BP significantly better than PF?
So many questions................so little time.


Which factory is better is hard to answer. ARF has had some great releases in the past 12 months

You’re better off thinking of the watch you want and researching the various versions. For the 5711, I think PF is the best. I have the BP v3 and the pf, and it’s no contest between them. The greenish tint to the BP dial is its major flaw, but it also doesn’t have movement decorations. Later versions had decorations, but made the watch thicker. The printing on the dial is quite faint too. The clasp is a little flimsy too. Its major pros are the thinness (8.9mm; gen is 8.3mm) and dwo font.

BP v3:
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The pf is just as thin as the BP v3 at 8.9mm. The dial colour is way better than the BP. The major problem is the hour markers. They should form a ring that’s aligned with the minute markers, but there overhanging. This is clearly visible in photos, but I don’t see it when it’s on my wrist. The dwo font is too faint and doesn’t fill the whole date aperture. However, pf has the best bracelet in terms of engravings and clasp finishing.

Both the BP and pf have the miyota 9015 so they’re noisy, but it’s an easy fix with a dot of oil or grease.

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I’ve never held an MK, but it’s main flaws are the thickness and the bracelet, both of which are deal breakers for me. The bracelet has the wrong mid end link; it’s too chunky. Also people find the bracelet needs nodding because it gapes over many peoples wrist. But, the mk has the best dial. The shade of blue is just as good if not better than the pf, and the hour markers are much better aligned.

I personally emphasise thinness and shade of the dial, so pf was an easy choice (even if it’s $500 with a miyota under the hood).

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RussP

I had one with an SW200 movement and it was as close to the gen as possible. 

A few years ago they were being sold at $500 and upwards. 

Unfortunately, the watch was too large for my tastes and I sold it to a member on this forum a while ago. 

Thanks for your detailed post with the information about variations on the different factory versions. 

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nivka
I had one with an SW200 movement and it was as close to the gen as possible. 
A few years ago they were being sold at $500 and upwards. 
Unfortunately, the watch was too large for my tastes and I sold it to a member on this forum a while ago. 
Thanks for your detailed post with the information about variations on the different factory versions. 

Too large in terms of thickness? What’s your wrist size?

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BlockSize

I’m curious from either factory what wrist these watches fit I just got a noob yachtmaster from an M2M and unless he forgot some links it only just fits my 8” wrist

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nivka
I’m curious from either factory what wrist these watches fit I just got a noob yachtmaster from an M2M and unless he forgot some links it only just fits my 8” wrist


It’s a petite little thing. I have a 6’.75 inch wrist and only remove 3 links

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BlockSize
16 minutes ago, nivka said:

 


It’s a petite little thing. I have a 6’.75 inch wrist and only remove 3 links

 

Darn really liked the look of it, maybe I could pick up some links if I buy it, just saw one single link on chrono 24 for $442, what a steal!

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nivka
Darn really liked the look of it, maybe I could pick up some links if I buy it, just saw one single link on chrono 24 for $442, what a steal!

You could try in on a strap or buy a whole spare bracelet and steal the links. It’s a hard bracelet to resize so someone might want extra pins or links after damaging theirs. That could offset your investment

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RussP
6 hours ago, nivka said:


Too large in terms of thickness? What’s your wrist size?

Just too large in diameter.

I have skinny wrists.

6 inches.

I now keep all purchases to around 36~37mm if possible.

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RussP

Some pictures of the afore-mentioned SW-200 Nautilus:

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On an aftermarket Donerix strap:

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And finally: 27250102761_eb344168db_b.jpg

5 hours ago, BlockSize said:

Darn really liked the look of it, maybe I could pick up some links if I buy it, just saw one single link on chrono 24 for $442, what a steal!

Or have Donerix (on the other forum) custom make you a leather band which really makes the watch head 'pop'.

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BlockSize
47 minutes ago, RussP said:

Some pictures of the afore-mentioned SW-200 Nautilus:

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26687967454_bce6f7cb32_b.jpg

 

27198272072_dcc1a2ac2f_b.jpg

On an aftermarket Donerix strap:

27198279122_1c31338ee8_b.jpg

27225129101_1b241f7ae1_b.jpg

 

26687982194_7f78184d78_b.jpg

27294879605_fbb954b325_b.jpg

27019930540_f54edc162b_b.jpg

And finally: 27250102761_eb344168db_b.jpg

Or have Donerix (on the other forum) custom make you a leather band which really makes the watch head 'pop'.

It sure does, might consider a good one now I see that one on leather looks great!

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nivka
Some pictures of the afore-mentioned SW-200 Nautilus:
27294858495_5a89fd1812_b.jpg
26687967454_bce6f7cb32_b.jpg
 
27198272072_dcc1a2ac2f_b.jpg
On an aftermarket Donerix strap:
27198279122_1c31338ee8_b.jpg
27225129101_1b241f7ae1_b.jpg
 
26687982194_7f78184d78_b.jpg
27294879605_fbb954b325_b.jpg
27019930540_f54edc162b_b.jpg
And finally: 27250102761_eb344168db_b.jpg
Or have Donerix (on the other forum) custom make you a leather band which really makes the watch head 'pop'.


Stunning rig

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Talha
On 7.2.2018 at 17:05, Jholmeson said:

Haven't had the MK in hand but I have the PF and have had the BP - from reviews, the MK has a nicer dial but is thicker and to me the Patek aesthetic is all about thinness, so I went with PF.

Make sure to QC for marker alignment issues though, seems to be a recurring problem with this batch of PF.

It's a beautiful watch, I wear it more than any other - so versatile & understated. Enjoy it!

I totally agree with you! PF really gets the thinness (8,5mm) right and thats for me the most important part of the watch.  There is a really nice comparison on rwi between the MK and the PF.

I am still hoping for the V6f, but it seems more and more unrealistic that it will ever be released. 

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