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Vintage Speedy Quartz Tutorial - Completed

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joeshmoe

this is an amazing tutorial, thanks for sharing, might have to try this eventually

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TheFreckledTampon
3 hours ago, NCRich said:

I figured out what went wrong.  Household bleach in your country comes in a higher concentration than the US.  You should not have heated it.

 

Of course you know that now.

It's a lesson I'll never forget!

It's a good thing for the forum to be aware of too so well done for realising.

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manodeoro

I can't stop reading that thread @NCRich  my friend ... you know what ? 

though I hate those 20/40/60 twin subdials I'm on the verge of ordering one to mod it.

The more I look at that quartz and the more I think it could become a "not too bad" vintage Omega Speedmaster Reduced

Look at the comparison pic below ... 

- Right is a  3510.50 circa 1991

- Left is ... you already know that one :D

01_-_QUARTZ_VS_REDUCED_COMPARE.jpg

With a little work (you know what I consider "little") on the quartz dial

and supposing the one I order comes with a Miyota OS20 if I'm happy enough ...

I really think it could look like this at the end of the journey a REALLY BETTER comparison pic :D

 And YES I KNOW that the subdials @3  and @6 are reversed but  I think it could be a nice watch

04_-_QUARTZ_VS_REDUCED_COMPARE_2.jpg

 

 

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TheFreckledTampon

It is a nice looking watch in photos, but the once-per-second, quartz, tick tock of the seconds hand makes mine unwearable for me.

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NCRich
1 hour ago, manodeoro said:

I can't stop reading that thread @NCRich  my friend ... you know what ? 

though I hate those 20/40/60 twin subdials I'm on the verge of ordering one to mod it.

The more I look at that quartz and the more I think it could become a "not too bad" vintage Omega Speedmaster Reduced

Look at the comparison pic below ... 

- Right is a  3510.50 circa 1991

- Left is ... you already know that one :D

01_-_QUARTZ_VS_REDUCED_COMPARE.jpg

With a little work (you know what I consider "little") on the quartz dial

and supposing the one I order comes with a Miyota OS20 if I'm happy enough ...

I really think it could look like this at the end of the journey a REALLY BETTER comparison pic :D

 And YES I KNOW that the subdials @3  and @6 are reversed but  I think it could be a nice watch

04_-_QUARTZ_VS_REDUCED_COMPARE_2.jpg

 

 

Go for it!  Fun project.

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manodeoro
5 hours ago, GingerBlubba said:

It is a nice looking watch in photos, but the once-per-second, quartz, tick tock of the seconds hand makes mine unwearable for me.

Indeed but ... an Omega Speedmaster Reduced for about $50 :D

Another idea could be to try to fit a Miyota 6S21 in that quartz case  if there is  "free space" enough

Then we could get a "sweeping" chrono second hand as the 6S21 ticks between the seconds.

That movement is a "2 eyes" only but is has  some really interesting specs :

1 -  the small second subdial is @3h00 

2 - the chrono minute hand is @9h00

3 - the positions of the 2 subdials @3h00 and @9h00 are exactly the same that those on the Miyota OS20

EDIT

Stupid me !!! 0S20 ans 6S21 specs show different  positions of the subdials @3h00 and @6h00  :blush:

6S21 subdials are 8.6mm from the center and 0S20 subdials are 6.8 mm from the center

This means that the dial coming with the watch  cant be used for that build with a 6S21 :angry: and a custom one must be built

This means too that the final result could look more Genlike :D

4 - same dial feets positions as the 0S20

So ... imagine :

1 - small second @3h00 - like the Gen

2 - chrono minutes hand @9h00  - like the Gen  

3 - no chrono hours hand @6h00 - forget about that cause we can have that small hand fixed

4 - not handwind (quartz) - same as the reduced that is an automatic

Think I'm gonn follow that track :bananarider:

 

@NCRich my friend would you be kind enough to give me some infos about your  quartz speedy :

1 - size of the dial opening

2 - size of the dial seat

and if you could take time to check if a "15 lignes" movement can be fitted in the case or if it will need some reworking  on the lathe

 

Edited by manodeoro

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manodeoro
3 hours ago, NCRich said:

Go for it!  Fun project.

Thanks Rich ... fun indeed ... and the only way for me to wear a watch wich has twins 60 subdials  :angry: but you already know that don't you (sorry for that again)

 

As I stated in my post just above I think we could mimic the Reduced a little better if we can fit a Miyota 6S21 in the case.

- small second @3h00 ... "as per Gen":D

- chrono minute hand @9h00 ... still "as per Gen" (I love that sentence)

- central chrono second hand ticking between the second (I'll have to check that) so closer to the Gen 

The dial coming with the quartz watch could be modded as the subdials on the  6S21 are placed just like the ones on the 0S20

THE problem will be to fit a 15 lignes movement in a case which is supposed to receive a 13-1/2 lignes movement ... that means 3.3mm more

The caseback would be inacurate but who cares ... plus as I'll probably have to rework the case from the inside to fit the 15 lignes movement I will try to source a snap caseback (as per Gen again) that would fit the reworked case

 

EDIT : what I need at first is the dimensions of the dial opening and the dial seat on the case

with those informations + the 6S21 specs that I already have, I  can work on the design of the future dial and possibly build one from scratch

EDIT 2 : if I want to use a 6S21 I MUST build a custom dial, with subdials 8.6mm from the center

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gmchris

So thanks to the inspiration in this thread, I decided to have a go with my quartz Speedie. I initially fitted an acrylic crystal with some hypo but there were 2 problems. Firstly, I could see the glue through the crystal - little bling diamonds around the edge. Secondly, the stainless rehaut that was hidden by the mineral crystal distortion was now blatantly obvious, like lookin down a dustbin. 

So the answer I found was to black paint the bottom face of the crystal before gluing in, and also paint the rehaut. Here it is (with some not very well painted indices and hands. 

1st attempt. 

DSC-0725.jpg

DSC-0722.jpg

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NCRich
2 hours ago, gmchris said:

So thanks to the inspiration in this thread, I decided to have a go with my quartz Speedie. I initially fitted an acrylic crystal with some hypo but there were 2 problems. Firstly, I could see the glue through the crystal - little bling diamonds around the edge. Secondly, the stainless rehaut that was hidden by the mineral crystal distortion was now blatantly obvious, like lookin down a dustbin. 

So the answer I found was to black paint the bottom face of the crystal before gluing in, and also paint the rehaut. Here it is (with some not very well painted indices and hands. 

1st attempt. 

DSC-0725.jpg

DSC-0722.jpg

20190522-212343.jpg

Nice job!  Great idea.

I had never noticed the rehaut.  Now I do..........so I hate you for that.  :rofl:

 

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gmchris
3 hours ago, NCRich said:

Nice job!  Great idea.

I had never noticed the rehaut.  Now I do..........so I hate you for that.  :rofl:

 

Sorry mate. Its a bug now, may have to paint it out on my Monaco and my Speedie 2 and my navitimer and....... 

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