semperfi55 4,707 Posted May 24, 2018 Hi guys, Just got my Breguet 5177. It's absolutely gorgeous! But I'm having a difficut time telling if the dial is wonky. I've tried lining up 3 and 9 o'clock with a ruler to the crown and still have some suspicions. Any help appreciated! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GingerApple 7,272 Posted May 24, 2018 It looks like it's wonky to me - it's rotated half a degree clockwise to my eye. The 3 o'clock dot is two thirds of the way down the crown for eg. An easy fix for a watchsmith I'd have thought? It could just be the camera angle though, the photo's not quite head on by the look of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BM284 1,518 Posted May 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Gingerbubba said: It looks like it's wonky to me - it's rotated half a degree clockwise to my eye. The 3 o'clock dot is two thirds of the way down the crown for eg. An easy fix for a watchsmith I'd have thought? ^ this! (Couldn’t have put it better myself) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EBB 25 Posted May 24, 2018 Is roman numeral 4 supposed to be IV, and why are a few of them upside down? unless that's just the style. On the plus side, the weave dial looks unique. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
semperfi55 4,707 Posted May 24, 2018 I don't know if rotating the whole dial would fix it though because that would move the date window. It looks like the metal ring bit that has the numerals and hour markers is fixed/glued onto the dial. So it's that ring that is off? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
semperfi55 4,707 Posted May 24, 2018 @EBBWriting IV as IIII is common on dials. Makes it look more balanced when you look at IIII and the opposite VIII. They're not upside down, it's also a common dial design. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Logixa 8 Posted May 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, EBB said: Is roman numeral 4 supposed to be IV, and why are a few of them upside down? unless that's just the style. On the plus side, the weave dial looks unique. THIS AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA I have never seen, or maybe noticed, this before but it looks retarded to me haha dial is easily fixed by just opening the back, loosening the movement screws and turning the whole a bit until it lines up better and tightening the screws again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GingerApple 7,272 Posted May 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, semperfi55 said: I don't know if rotating the whole dial would fix it though because that would move the date window. Lol, good point. I didn't notice the date window! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
semperfi55 4,707 Posted May 24, 2018 35 minutes ago, Logixa said: turning the whole a bit until it lines up better and tightening the screws again. Yes but wouldn't that mess up the date window though? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Logixa 8 Posted May 24, 2018 nah, the whole movement is turned this way. Its the same thing that smiths/modders do to align the 12 hour marker on a rolex to the crown on the rehaut. Just need to see how far it can be turned without putting too much pressure on the crown stem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
semperfi55 4,707 Posted May 24, 2018 30 minutes ago, Logixa said: nah, the whole movement is turned this way. Its the same thing that smiths/modders do to align the 12 hour marker on a rolex to the crown on the rehaut. Just need to see how far it can be turned without putting too much pressure on the crown stem Ok point taken. Went to give it a go but rather embarassingly I can't seem to open the caseback. VMSG encountered a similar problem on his Breguet. Friction ball did not work. No screws. No lip to allow for knife. I'm gonna leave it for now and see what else I can do. For now it's just a watch with a somewhat wonky dial. Don't want to turn it into a scratched up watch with a somewhat wonky dial. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luxuracer 14 Posted May 24, 2018 40 minutes ago, semperfi55 said: I'm gonna leave it for now and see what else I can do. For now it's just a watch with a somewhat wonky dial. Don't want to turn it into a scratched up watch with a somewhat wonky dial. Just wear it ... You will be the only one that see the misalign dial (not wonky) ... If if bother you to the point that you can't wear it then at that point try to fix it. It's a nice looking watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Logixa 8 Posted May 24, 2018 45 minutes ago, semperfi55 said: Ok point taken. Went to give it a go but rather embarassingly I can't seem to open the caseback. VMSG encountered a similar problem on his Breguet. Friction ball did not work. No screws. No lip to allow for knife. I'm gonna leave it for now and see what else I can do. For now it's just a watch with a somewhat wonky dial. Don't want to turn it into a scratched up watch with a somewhat wonky dial. can you make a picture of the back side? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GingerApple 7,272 Posted May 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Logixa said: can you make a picture of the back side? Yeah! Whip it out, whip it out! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
semperfi55 4,707 Posted May 24, 2018 @Logixa @Gingerbubba You ask for it, you get it.... I might get banned for this but here goes nothing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
semperfi55 4,707 Posted May 24, 2018 I even took off the leather straps in case there might be a lip around 12 or 6 o'clock Uncensored pics here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blueoysterboy 17 Posted May 24, 2018 3 hours ago, EBB said: Is roman numeral 4 supposed to be IV? Yep, according to my 2nd grade teacher it is! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GingerApple 7,272 Posted May 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, semperfi55 said: @Logixa @Gingerbubba You ask for it, you get it.... I might get banned for this but here goes nothing Lol, thanks for sparing my modesty, good work! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Logixa 8 Posted May 24, 2018 37 minutes ago, semperfi55 said: @Logixa @Gingerbubba You ask for it, you get it.... I might get banned for this but here goes nothing Aaah my eyes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glaude 1,615 Posted May 24, 2018 5 hours ago, Logixa said: THIS AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA I have never seen, or maybe noticed, this before but it looks retarded to me haha dial is easily fixed by just opening the back, loosening the movement screws and turning the whole a bit until it lines up better and tightening the screws again. It's indeed common practice in the watch world to write IV as IIII. Take a look at Cartier dial with roman numerals. Nothing that I couldn't live with, remember the JLC Reverso Auto dial 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VMSG 2 Posted May 24, 2018 I think it is a bit rotated, but it is not a big deal... Regarding the roman numeric, it is written IIII also on the Gen dial: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tripdog123 37 Posted May 24, 2018 Dial (whole movement) is rotated about 1 minute clockwise, and that's a pressure fit case back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
semperfi55 4,707 Posted May 25, 2018 7 hours ago, Glaude said: JLC Reverso Auto dial Yes! Haha to think I couldn’t see it initially! Now I barely notice it anyways! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xpletiv 16 Posted May 25, 2018 AHH, MY EYES!!!!!!!!! Can't recall that Reverso, post up a piccy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
semperfi55 4,707 Posted May 25, 2018 7 hours ago, Xpletiv said: Can't recall that Reverso, post up a piccy? That's because I haven't posted a review of it here. Figure out what's wonky here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
