Mr Stubbs 0 Posted August 6, 2018 Okay gents, welcome to my my completely UN-scientific comparison of some watches, by WEIGHT. McGilli drove me in this direction in his response to my 616 Carbotech review. I wanted to see the difference Carbotech made versus steel in a 47mm PAM . I was pleasantly surprised by the results. Then I had a whisky and I had the brilliant idea of comparing my big-ass PAMs to some other lightweights. So cheers everyone, here goes nothing. And here's to you Pam, wherever you are. First up for comparison, this trio of 47mm PAM submersibles. Left to right: What is supposed to be a 382 but in rose gold over steel; a 616 but in PVD over steel; and the 616 in Carbotech. Using the Taylor scale that measures ounces to two decimal places, but I'm just using grams. And the RG on SS 1950 submersible weighs a stunning 180 grams! Seriously, stunning: you could knock someone out with one shot to the head with this! Next up, the PVD version of the Carbotech, PVD over SS. 148 grams, a few grams more than my Seiko Monster! And last of the submersible trio, my reason for living, the Carbotech 616 at a svelte 135 grams. 13 grams less than PVD on stainless steel with the same strap. I know, sweet, right??? I then became curious how these large watches compared to more *ahem* popular watches. On the subject of 47mm, here is my PAM 372 weighing in at 130 grams. Slightly lighter than the Carbotech, but it is an all-dial watch with plexi crystals front and back. Next, the 44mm Marina Militaire at 122 grams, another all-dial watch with a plexi caseback, so not really surprising. Here is my Rolex Sub on SS bracelet weighing in at 139 grams. Obviously it would be less on leather. Last and least, how about the Rolex Air King, living up to it's name at an astonishing 55 grams! What makes the difference in similar watches? Case material, bracelet material, movement type and material, case size, whether you press your thumb on the scale. .. Thanks for looking. As I said, completely un-scientific! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glaude 1,615 Posted August 7, 2018 Interesting analysis ! I wonder if you can even feel that you are wearing a watch if you have the RG 1950 in the morning and the Air King after work 43 minutes ago, Mr Stubbs said: Then I had a whisky And you were blaming me for trying to make you drunk ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Stubbs 0 Posted August 7, 2018 16 minutes ago, Glaude said: Interesting analysis ! I wonder if you can even feel that you are wearing a watch if you have the RG 1950 in the morning and the Air King after work And you were blaming me for trying to make you drunk ... After a few shots of whisky, I can't feel that I am wearing any watch at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glaude 1,615 Posted August 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, Mr Stubbs said: After a few shots of whisky, I can't feel that I am wearing any watch at all. Check for clothes then ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenTLe 1,510 Posted August 7, 2018 All relatively light My heaviest ones are the Gran Carrera calibre 36 at a whopping 260+g and the Breitling Super avenger chronographs that with the bracelet is around the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glaude 1,615 Posted August 7, 2018 Franck Muller Crazy Hours Colour Dreams on bracelet weighted : 170 gr, the heaviest one I have for now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McGilli 1 Posted August 7, 2018 Nice! Hang on... My PAM 177 is... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Stubbs 0 Posted August 7, 2018 14 hours ago, GenTLe said: All relatively light My heaviest ones are the Gran Carrera calibre 36 at a whopping 260+g and the Breitling Super avenger chronographs that with the bracelet is around the same. 260 grams? 21 minutes ago, Glaude said: Franck Muller Crazy Hours Colour Dreams on bracelet weighted : 170 gr, the heaviest one I have for now Does the tonneau case distribute the weight more evenly than a round case? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glaude 1,615 Posted August 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, Mr Stubbs said: Does the tonneau case distribute the weight more evenly than a round case? It's one of the most comfortable watches to wear that I have. I think most of the weight comes from the bracelet. I'll give him the baby oil treatment tomorrow night and weight it alone at this occasion and report back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Stubbs 0 Posted August 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, McGilli said: Nice! Hang on... My PAM 177 is... Now that is impressive! 44mm of titanium. Mmmmm! I remember when the Campagnolo Super Record road group came out. I was astonished at the lightness of the titanium bolts. I had a Tommasini with the Record group and one with the Super Record group. Sigh. Traded those in on a mountain bike and regretted it for the last 40 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadPickle 2,801 Posted August 7, 2018 You need to get out more Stubbsy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lagger 160 Posted August 7, 2018 When I'm this bored I usually play with my Willy :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glaude 1,615 Posted August 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Lagger said: When I'm this bored I usually play with my Willy :-) Weight ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lagger 160 Posted August 7, 2018 Just over a stone (14lb metric) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Stubbs 0 Posted August 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Lagger said: Just over a stone (14lb metric) How much with the two steel balls? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JSJ 0 Posted August 7, 2018 Thought they wereTwo brass balls?Filled with creamAh um titty bum titty bum... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lagger 160 Posted August 7, 2018 I've never weighed them as my brain is in them and it's not accurate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glaude 1,615 Posted August 9, 2018 Report for the FM Crazy hours bracelet : 91 gr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jadamedske 0 Posted March 14, 2022 Heavy means are good. Heavy means are reliable. If they don't work, they can still be fought. Guy Ritchie could have written the same thing about pistols, but weight is also a sign of quality in the case of watches. The truth is this: high-quality watches should be high-quality by weight. You can, for example, put on the scales **SPAM LINK REMOVED** ordinary watches and high-quality ones, and you will see the difference for yourself. All the components and parts from which they are made together weigh a lot and take up enough space. When you put them on, you immediately feel: it's a watch, not a toy. When you give them to your grandson, he doesn't have to ask you.: "Where are the other parts?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abe Fromen 1,623 Posted March 14, 2022 Ok now you have to remove the straps and weigh just the watches themselves. Straps and buckles can vary widely in weight and bulk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
APjumbo 3,032 Posted March 14, 2022 Here is a cut and paste from some of my notes about weights if anyone is curious IWC Portuguese 7 Day - 95 grams Rolex Submariner - 11610 - 130 grams Rolex Submariner -116610-145g Rolex Daytona - 116520 - 135 grams Rolex GMT IIC - 116710 - 140 grams Rolex SD43 - 126600-180g-195g Rolex SD4K- 116600- Rolex SD-16600- 150g ish Rolex DSSD - 215g-220g Rolex YM116622 on rubber 101g Panerai 312 - 160 grams Tudor ranger Heritage - 160 grams Pam111 - 150 grams (130 on canvas) Pam177 - 118g on rubber Pam Bronzo 190g (on rubber) Safari 189g (175 on croc) AP 44mm FC 146g AP SS Diver in rubber 175g Pam111 147g Pam MM 177 ti 97g Pam MM pvd SS 118g Pam bronzo 193g Tudor Pelagos 142 on bracelet Seiko 44mm prospex 185g 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tribefan 6,768 Posted March 15, 2022 Who has a 50MM Aragon? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diluted 216 Posted March 15, 2022 I have a 45mm Aragon DF-45 T-100. 220g (with bracelet) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abe Fromen 1,623 Posted March 15, 2022 16 hours ago, tribefan said: Who has a 50MM Aragon? Paging Mr. Preet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cap'n 930 Posted March 15, 2022 OK - so you got me intrigued Share this post Link to post Share on other sites