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What Does a 47mm PAM Weigh Compared to...

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Mr Stubbs

Okay gents, welcome to my my completely UN-scientific comparison of some watches, by WEIGHT.  :thumbsup:

McGilli drove me in this direction in his response to my 616 Carbotech review.  I wanted to see the difference Carbotech made versus steel in a 47mm PAM .  I was pleasantly surprised by the results.  Then I had a whisky and I had the brilliant idea of comparing my big-ass PAMs to some other lightweights.  So cheers everyone, here goes nothing.  And here's to you Pam, wherever you are. :beer2:

First up for comparison, this trio of 47mm PAM submersibles. Left to right:  What is supposed to be a 382 but in rose gold over steel;  a 616 but in PVD over steel; and the 616 in Carbotech.

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Using the Taylor scale that measures ounces to two decimal places, but I'm just using grams.

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And the RG on SS 1950 submersible weighs a stunning 180 grams!  Seriously, stunning:  you could knock someone out with one shot to the head with this!

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Next up, the PVD version of the Carbotech, PVD over SS. 148 grams, a few grams more than my Seiko Monster!

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And last of the submersible trio, my reason for living, the Carbotech 616 at a svelte 135 grams. 13 grams less than PVD on stainless steel with the same strap.

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I know, sweet, right???  :D 

I then became curious how these large watches compared to more *ahem* popular watches. ;)

On the subject of 47mm, here is my PAM 372 weighing in at 130 grams.  Slightly lighter than the Carbotech, but it is an all-dial watch with plexi crystals front and back.

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Next, the 44mm Marina Militaire at 122 grams, another all-dial watch with a plexi caseback, so not really surprising.

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Here is my Rolex Sub on SS bracelet weighing in at 139 grams. Obviously it would be less on leather.

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Last and least, how about the Rolex Air King, living up to it's name at an astonishing 55 grams!

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What makes the difference in similar watches?   Case material, bracelet material, movement type and material, case size, whether you press your thumb on the scale. ..

Thanks for looking.  As I said, completely un-scientific! :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Glaude

Interesting analysis ! 

I wonder if you can even feel that you are wearing a watch if you have the RG 1950 in the morning and the Air King after work :D 

43 minutes ago, Mr Stubbs said:

Then I had a whisky

And you were blaming me for trying to make you drunk ... :giggle:

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Mr Stubbs
16 minutes ago, Glaude said:

Interesting analysis ! 

I wonder if you can even feel that you are wearing a watch if you have the RG 1950 in the morning and the Air King after work :D 

And you were blaming me for trying to make you drunk ... :giggle:

After a few shots of whisky, I can't feel that I am wearing any watch at all. :lmao:

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Glaude
6 minutes ago, Mr Stubbs said:

After a few shots of whisky, I can't feel that I am wearing any watch at all. :lmao:

Check for clothes then ... :baghead::lol: 

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GenTLe

All relatively light :)
My heaviest ones are the Gran Carrera calibre 36 at a whopping 260+g and the Breitling Super avenger chronographs that with the bracelet is around the same.

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Glaude

Franck Muller Crazy Hours Colour Dreams on bracelet weighted : 170 gr, the heaviest one I have for now

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McGilli

Nice!

Hang on... My PAM 177 is... 

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Mr Stubbs
14 hours ago, GenTLe said:

All relatively light :)
My heaviest ones are the Gran Carrera calibre 36 at a whopping 260+g and the Breitling Super avenger chronographs that with the bracelet is around the same.

260 grams?  :notworthy:

21 minutes ago, Glaude said:

Franck Muller Crazy Hours Colour Dreams on bracelet weighted : 170 gr, the heaviest one I have for now

Does the tonneau case distribute the weight more evenly than a round case?

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Glaude
10 minutes ago, Mr Stubbs said:

Does the tonneau case distribute the weight more evenly than a round case?

It's one of the most comfortable watches to wear that I have. I think most of the weight comes from the bracelet.
I'll give him the baby oil treatment tomorrow night and weight it alone at this occasion and report back :) 

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Mr Stubbs
7 minutes ago, McGilli said:

Nice!

Hang on... My PAM 177 is... 

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Now that is impressive!  44mm of titanium.  Mmmmm!  

I remember when the Campagnolo Super Record road group came out. I was astonished at the lightness of the titanium bolts.  I had a Tommasini with the Record group and one with the Super Record group.   Sigh.  Traded those in on a mountain bike and regretted it for the last 40 years.  :gregr:

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BadPickle

You need to get out more Stubbsy :lol: 

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Lagger

When I'm this bored I usually play with my Willy :-)

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Glaude
4 minutes ago, Lagger said:

When I'm this bored I usually play with my Willy :-)

Weight ? :giggle:

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Lagger

Just over a stone :D

(14lb metric)

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Mr Stubbs
1 minute ago, Lagger said:

Just over a stone :D

(14lb metric)

How much with the two steel balls? :lmao:

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JSJ

Thought they were
Two brass balls?
Filled with cream
Ah um titty bum titty bum...

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Lagger

I've never weighed them as my brain is in them and it's not accurate

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Glaude

Report for the FM Crazy hours bracelet : 91 gr

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jadamedske

Heavy means are good. Heavy means are reliable. If they don't work, they can still be fought. Guy Ritchie could have written the same thing about pistols, but weight is also a sign of quality in the case of watches. The truth is this: high-quality watches should be high-quality by weight. You can, for example, put on the scales **SPAM LINK REMOVED** ordinary watches and high-quality ones, and you will see the difference for yourself. All the components and parts from which they are made together weigh a lot and take up enough space. When you put them on, you immediately feel: it's a watch, not a toy. When you give them to your grandson, he doesn't have to ask you.: "Where are the other parts?"

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Abe Fromen

Ok now you have to remove the straps and weigh just the watches themselves. Straps and buckles can vary widely in weight and bulk. 

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APjumbo

Here is a cut and paste from some of my notes about weights if anyone is curious

IWC Portuguese 7 Day - 95 grams

Rolex Submariner - 11610 - 130 grams

Rolex Submariner -116610-145g

Rolex Daytona - 116520 - 135 grams

Rolex GMT IIC - 116710 - 140 grams

Rolex SD43 - 126600-180g-195g

Rolex SD4K- 116600- 

Rolex SD-16600- 150g ish

Rolex DSSD - 215g-220g

Rolex YM116622 on rubber 101g

Panerai 312 - 160 grams

Tudor ranger Heritage - 160 grams

Pam111 - 150 grams (130 on canvas)

Pam177 - 118g on rubber

Pam Bronzo 190g (on rubber)

Safari 189g (175 on croc)

AP 44mm FC 146g

AP SS Diver in rubber 175g

Pam111 147g

Pam MM 177 ti 97g

Pam MM pvd SS 118g

Pam bronzo 193g

Tudor Pelagos 142 on bracelet 

Seiko 44mm prospex 185g

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tribefan

Who has a 50MM Aragon?

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Diluted

I have a 45mm Aragon DF-45 T-100. 220g (with bracelet)

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Abe Fromen
16 hours ago, tribefan said:

Who has a 50MM Aragon?

Paging Mr. Preet. 

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Cap'n

OK - so you got me intrigued 

0-AB49570-96-A2-47-D1-9-AD3-392-D6-BA19-

 

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