ruddz 0 Posted August 22, 2018 Been thinking alot about the Tudor Black Bay and if I should go gen but the more I read I can´t see the point as I´ve read that the rep is insane. I do like the rose dial more than the shield (just me), but I´ve read that the shield version is more accurate but the case is thicker ? Can I get any input on this, both if I should just go for the rep instead of gen and also is the shield rep more accurate but has thicker case ? (don´t like to thick cases) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genius 281 Posted August 22, 2018 Rose dial is more accurate to the gen, looks nicer, comes on a much better bracelet too. I have the rep of the black bay red it's too close to consider a gen and I have a couple of gen Tudors.. The reps are so cheap to pick a different model to get as gen, one that isn't so well repped, then buy pre-owned and then still buy the rep, will cost you less than the brand new gen for both and you'll have both! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruddz 0 Posted August 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, Genius said: Rose dial is more accurate to the gen, looks nicer, comes on a much better bracelet too. I have the rep of the black bay red it's too close to consider a gen and I have a couple of gen Tudors.. The reps are so cheap to pick a different model to get as gen, one that isn't so well repped, then buy pre-owned and then still buy the rep, will cost you less than the brand new gen for both and you'll have both! Well said! Does it matter what version I buy of rose dial ? Think I´ve read there are 5 or 6 versions but I am guessing the later ones are better ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenTLe 1,485 Posted August 22, 2018 There is only one and not lasting a lot as all the older are out of stock and the last one is out from a while and already on special prices on some TDs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadApple 13,079 Posted August 22, 2018 I've just offloaded my Submariners as everytime I wore one people just assumed it was fake. I've topped up my collection with PAMs BUT I'm now moving into Tudor - they look Rolexish but people don't assume they are fake. I've a Black Bay Bronze Blue rep which is just awesome and I've a RegBay inbound as my daily beater. I will add another Tudor as my next purchase. I've a big 60 birthday looming and will be getting a gen as promised by my missus - my choice will be the Pelagos LHD - circa £3k but in my eyes blows Rolex out of the water. As said above - get rep Tudors but if your'e getting a Gen keep away from your chosen Gen model. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EBB 25 Posted August 22, 2018 Black, blue, red. That's the order in rarity. I would snag one of the ETA versions asap. I own the blue ETA gen, absolutely love it and have no regrets. If you scout watchrecon or eBay, you may be able to pick up blue or red for $2200. Over the past few months I've noticed the price rising. On a side note, I cant confirm this 100%, but I've heard that Tudor is recalling natos from the ETA versions from ADs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadPickle 2,655 Posted August 22, 2018 Rep, rose version, I have blue and red, both exceptional watches. Gens are for quitters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadApple 13,079 Posted August 22, 2018 13 minutes ago, pickledbeetroot said: Rep, rose version, I have blue and red, both exceptional watches. Gens are for quitters PM sent to Mary enquiring about Pelagos LHD....... twat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadPickle 2,655 Posted August 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, BADAPPLE said: PM sent to Mary enquiring about Pelagos LHD....... twat. oh i've got a pelagos blue too i'm not keen on the LHD, i tried one at the gtg, nice design if in RHD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EBB 25 Posted August 22, 2018 32 minutes ago, pickledbeetroot said: Rep, rose version, I have blue and red, both exceptional watches. Gens are for quitters The shield version is better though right? At least when comparing the dials, the shield version is better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redmack 0 Posted August 22, 2018 hi guys this is my ZF asian 2824 version rose dial before they switched to the shield dial and rivet bracelet, i absolutely love it, classy looking and simple, it came on a ss bracelet which is very good rep bracelet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gman1993 0 Posted August 22, 2018 @redmack that leather bracelet with that clasp is badass! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadPickle 2,655 Posted August 22, 2018 30 minutes ago, EBB said: The shield version is better though right? At least when comparing the dials, the shield version is better. Better at what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redmack 0 Posted August 22, 2018 33 minutes ago, gman1993 said: @redmack that leather bracelet with that clasp is badass! Thank you very much i love it , the strap is a Nero strap made by John G who is a trusted dealer on here in the strap section, is flicker page is awesome check him out he's a top lad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Del 4,373 Posted August 22, 2018 I probably shouldn’t answer but what the heck! I bought the gen BB four years ago and haven’t regretted it for a second. However, just in case you don’t want to take the best course of action, here’s my comparison of the gen with a V1 rep..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GingerApple 7,224 Posted August 22, 2018 5 hours ago, GenTLe said: There is only one and not lasting a lot as all the older are out of stock and the last one is out from a while and already on special prices on some TDs I got one a few weeks ago from MrTimeZone. Ironically I requested the shield version, but when QC pics arrived, they were of the rose version (which I accepted anyway). And it's brand new, top notch etc - not a seconds/faulty one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GingerApple 7,224 Posted August 22, 2018 4 hours ago, redmack said: Amazing taste in watches mate - trés chic. Your taste in ornamental birds however........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
semperfi55 4,648 Posted August 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, GingerBlubba said: ornamental birds Lol I didn't even see the birds! Only registered the nice watch! I think... I think I should take some time away from watches now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GingerApple 7,224 Posted August 22, 2018 28 minutes ago, semperfi55 said: Lol I didn't even see the birds! Only registered the nice watch! I think... I think I should take some time away from watches now... I'm a forum mod at 'Orni-mental Effigies.Com' so I only see the bird statues. Ornamental. Ornithology. 'Ornimental' Get it? *Sigh..... If you have to explain the joke....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RollyCR 0 Posted August 22, 2018 I was in europe for the summer and totally wanted to buy a gen bucherer bronze. Love that watch and it's just not seen in the U.S. at all. Of course there's a one year wait list. Online it's a $2k premium Fuck that. The gen also supposedly can't be taken into the ocean because the sea water reacts to the aluminum bezel and bronze case in a bad way. So there's a genuine dive watch that I can't take in the ocean (wtf) that I can buy for a $2k premium over retail, or I can spend $300 and buy a better designed rep right now. Not a hard decision. This might be the one watch out there where the rep is actually a better watch than the gen, regardless of the price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenTLe 1,485 Posted August 23, 2018 I got one a few weeks ago from MrTimeZone. Ironically I requested the shield version, but when QC pics arrived, they were of the rose version (which I accepted anyway). And it's brand new, top notch etc - not a seconds/faulty one.I meant there is only one version mate Typical noob error (from the guy I was replying) is to browse TD sites and seeing v1, v2, v3, from both V6F and ZF they think there are like 6 versions still available.Which is not. I think only ZF V4 is still around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadApple 13,079 Posted August 23, 2018 6 hours ago, RollyCR said: I was in europe for the summer and totally wanted to buy a gen bucherer bronze. Love that watch and it's just not seen in the U.S. at all. Of course there's a one year wait list. Online it's a $2k premium Fuck that. The gen also supposedly can't be taken into the ocean because the sea water reacts to the aluminum bezel and bronze case in a bad way. So there's a genuine dive watch that I can't take in the ocean (wtf) that I can buy for a $2k premium over retail, or I can spend $300 and buy a better designed rep right now. Not a hard decision. This might be the one watch out there where the rep is actually a better watch than the gen, regardless of the price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_B 2,401 Posted August 23, 2018 Rose dial is closer to Gen as the gen had the ETA. The Asian clone eta is pretty good, you could swap out for a Gen ETA to make the rep even better (not really needed IMO) the shield dial gen with rivet bracelet has its own new in house movement (not repped) so if you want closest to Gen - go ZF V4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rusky27 1,713 Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) I had the same question a couple of years back when I came into some money. In the end I couldn’t justify it and bought the rep again. But this time I bought a gen bezel insert (red) and sourced a gen strap and deployant. Job done for 1/4 price itch was scratched. Edited August 23, 2018 by rusky27 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruddz 0 Posted August 23, 2018 Well I am sold! Thanks guys, gonna try to find the rose rep! Guess I am gonna put my gen money into Longines heritage diver or might go 1967 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites