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Is this a GEN Daytona?

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bananakid0

Hello Everyone,

I believed this Daytona to be gen; however, the chronometer screw has come off which seems to be a rare occasion (I appreciate this can happen but would like to be sure).

Please can someone kindly comment on the authenticity of this watch?

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J!m

I need clearer, closer photos to make that call.

Do you have the watch in hand?

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Svenborg

Have you opened the back? Looking at the mechanism is the easiest way to check. Probably 4130 inside.

I can’t see the gold clearly, but the Daytona’s are solid gold. Any signs of this being plated/wrapped (or whatever you want to call it) and it isn’t gen. Can normally see ware on the buckle 

 

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Luxuracer

By the look of it .... I say it's gen ... BUT you can NOT be sure until you open the caseback and inspect the movement ... !

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Chiquita Fanjita

Looks gen to me. Pusher looks to be correct size, midlinks appear to be fully wrapped gold round the edges and the dial print and spacing looks bang on to me.

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deju

Need better pictures, as it stands does the chrono work for 2 minutes? It’s just the subdial pinions look like ARF flaw 

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Luxuracer
17 minutes ago, deju said:

Need better pictures, as it stands does the chrono work for 2 minutes? It’s just the subdial pinions look like ARF flaw 

The dial and the pusher's positions are not ARF ... @deju

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bananakid0

Thank you for the responses - unfortunately I don't have tools to open case back & take clearer close photos (iphone).

The gold doesn't show wear anywhere. Also the chrono has worked fine.

Will send to rolex for fixing then.

 

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bananakid0
5 minutes ago, Luxuracer said:

The dial and the pusher's positions are not ARF ... @deju

What is ARF?

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Luxuracer
4 minutes ago, bananakid0 said:

What is ARF?

ARF is a 'factory' that make replica watch (AR Factory). They make some 'great' Daytona replica.

 

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bananakid0
45 minutes ago, Luxuracer said:

ARF is a 'factory' that make replica watch (AR Factory). They make some 'great' Daytona replica.

 

Thanks

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CurioLeo

Hard to say for sure from the information you have provided however none of my gen Rolexes remotely feel like a piece could "come off".  Also, I don't have a Daytona but I do have a genuine Tudor Heritage Chrono with screw down pushers and they are not going to get knocked off without some serious deliberate effort to remove them.  I will say, from the images, the condition is not consistent with what one might expect to see with a two tone Daytona costing tens of thousands of dollars depending on its age.

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Luxuracer
12 minutes ago, CurioLeo said:

Hard to say for sure from the information you have provided however none of my gen Rolexes remotely feel like a piece could "come off".  Also, I don't have a Daytona but I do have a genuine Tudor Heritage Chrono with screw down pushers and they are not going to get knocked off without some serious deliberate effort to remove them.  I will say, from the images, the condition is not consistent with what one might expect to see with a two tone Daytona costing tens of thousands of dollars depending on its age.

The condition of the watch has nothing to do with the watch being a gen or rep. It's the details on the dial, the bezel, the case, the crown, the pushers, the hands, and the bracelet which tell the gen and rep watches apart. 

Every detail on that watch said it's gen. The only thing left is to verify the movement. It could be a 18 year old watch that had been abused by it owner. Talk about abuse you should see some of my friend abuse their gen watches. I, myself did not really care about my gen watches. They are just tool watch. My Omega had the bracelet replaced every time it being serviced. I take care of my reps better than my gens.

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CurioLeo
2 hours ago, Luxuracer said:

The condition of the watch has nothing to do with the watch being a gen or rep. It's the details on the dial, the bezel, the case, the crown, the pushers, the hands, and the bracelet which tell the gen and rep watches apart. 

Every detail on that watch said it's gen. The only thing left is to verify the movement. It could be a 18 year old watch that had been abused by it owner. Talk about abuse you should see some of my friend abuse their gen watches. I, myself did not really care about my gen watches. They are just tool watch. My Omega had the bracelet replaced every time it being serviced. I take care of my reps better than my gens.

I see where you are coming from but I honestly have not seen a single gold Daytona get trashed and let's just say I have seen a few high end gen watches on colleagues wrists.  In my experience, people who buy a Daytona are typically the dressy rather than sporty type and, even if they have several high end watches, the Daytona is still their public "good watch" based on recognition factor if nothing else.  As you say though, need to check out the movement to make a definitive call. Even that  will be hard a couple of decades from now, the way Noob's latest 4130 904L Daytona is evolving.

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BenjaminButton

When I see posts like this my first thought is - what’s the back story? Where does this potentially very valuable watch come from? Why are you asking a forum when I’d be down a specialists like a rat up a drain pipe if I thought I’d happened on a genuine Rolex. But again depends on the back story.

Obviously the movement is the give away and I know fuck all about Rolexes. But am I being a retard here when I say that the weight is obviously going to be very different. Gold is nearly x2.5 the weight of steel so this would be considerably heavier than a rep?

Get yer scales out boys?

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RussP
11 hours ago, bananakid0 said:

What is ARF?

Do you know just how many times I asked EXACTLY that question?

I've received all kinds of responses and am still none the clearer....or wiser.

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bananakid0

Thanks for all the help - in terms of back story this was a gift.

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GingerBlubba
6 minutes ago, bananakid0 said:

Thanks for all the help - in terms of back story this was a gift.

In case you want to re-gift that beaten up, unwanted POS, I'll forward you my address via PM. I'm happy to pay for postage.

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Thommo82
20 minutes ago, bananakid0 said:

Thanks for all the help - in terms of back story this was a gift.

That’s awfully nice of them!

Who gave it to you?

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bananakid0
13 minutes ago, GingerBlubba said:

In case you want to re-gift that beaten up, unwanted POS, I'll forward you my address via PM. I'm happy to pay for postage.

:D

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Luxuracer
16 hours ago, bananakid0 said:

Will send to rolex for fixing then.

Unless you have a very close relationship with your local Rolex AD (authorized dealer), my suggestion is for you to send your watch directly to one of Rolex Service Center and skip the middleman.

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bananakid0
30 minutes ago, Luxuracer said:

Unless you have a very close relationship with your local Rolex AD (authorized dealer), my suggestion is for you to send your watch directly to one of Rolex Service Center and skip the middleman.

Why would you skip the AD? Is that not a safer way to do it?

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FL13

Gen

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Glaude
8 hours ago, BenjaminButton said:

When I see posts like this my first thought is - what’s the back story? Where does this potentially very valuable watch come from? Why are you asking a forum when I’d be down a specialists like a rat up a drain pipe if I thought I’d happened on a genuine Rolex. But again depends on the back story.

Obviously the movement is the give away and I know fuck all about Rolexes. But am I being a retard here when I say that the weight is obviously going to be very different. Gold is nearly x2.5 the weight of steel so this would be considerably heavier than a rep?

Get yer scales out boys?

This ! 

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