OLLO 0 Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) Hi, How is the stem hold in the 2826 movement, only by the keyless work that is lifted when pushing through the hole or is there a mechanism that holds the stem even without the keyless works ? Thanks for any help. Oliver Edited December 10, 2018 by OLLO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Logixa 8 Posted December 10, 2018 Only the keyless. Pull the crown out to 3rd position and press the button. It will come out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCRich 13,714 Posted December 10, 2018 Very, very, very gently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OLLO 0 Posted December 10, 2018 Thanks, But If I have to press the button to get the stem out, it is hold back by the pin of this button right ? Thats my problem, the pin and the button are gone ; ( Anyone knows where if this pin/button ius replaceable and where to get it ? kind regards Oliver Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OLLO 0 Posted December 10, 2018 But if the Setting lever 443/1 for ETA 2836-2 is the release button https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-x-Setting-lever-443-1-for-ETA-2824-2-2834-2-2836-2-watch-movement-Repair-Parts-/253699915051 then I didn´t kill the pin : ) but that means if I press on this lever that lever is lifted and the keyless works goes up and thats why too much pressure makes a mess in the keyless works and you have to reassemble it completely ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadPickle 2,657 Posted December 10, 2018 Sounds like you pushed it too far in, you’ll need to strip down and re assemble the keyless works Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OLLO 0 Posted December 10, 2018 Well if thats my only problem, thanks to you guys I managed to get it going a few days ago, but I couldn´t fix the stem to be hold in the movement. Maybe I give it a second try ... kind regards Oliver Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OLLO 0 Posted December 11, 2018 The stem is now fixed, setting the watch works and date changes hacking works, movement stops in the outer position winding does not work by now setting the date in position B does not work puh not so easy someone got a schematic overview what happens in the keyless works and which gears are involved ? Any pictures are also welcom Thanks Oliver Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OLLO 0 Posted December 11, 2018 After connecting the Yoke spring to the settings lever gmt/date / time setting work now like a charm. only winding does not work or it is so subtle I don´t see and hear it. I may have to buy a new winding pinion. This never rotates with the stem, or maybe its on the backside of the movement ? kind regards to all supporters happy Oliver P.S. this site helped me a lot to identify the parts of the movement http://archive.horlogerie-suisse.com/Theoriehorlogerie/fonction-anglais.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadPickle 2,657 Posted December 11, 2018 Good work i have a 2824 which when winding you can’t feel any restriction, but it still winds, maybe you have the same Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KJ2020 1,463 Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, OLLO said: After connecting the Yoke spring to the settings lever gmt/date / time setting work now like a charm. only winding does not work or it is so subtle I don´t see and hear it. I may have to buy a new winding pinion. This never rotates with the stem, or maybe its on the backside of the movement ? kind regards to all supporters happy Oliver P.S. this site helped me a lot to identify the parts of the movement http://archive.horlogerie-suisse.com/Theoriehorlogerie/fonction-anglais.html Hey bro, Have a look at this video. You can fast forward to about 5:27 for the keyless works disassembly. You don't need to remove the calendar works, the author is disassembling the whole watch. I would just rebuild the keyless works and you probably be good. Good luck! Edited December 11, 2018 by KJ2020 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OLLO 0 Posted December 11, 2018 39 minutes ago, pickledbeetroot said: Good work i have a 2824 which when winding you can’t feel any restriction, but it still winds, maybe you have the same I agree and I think I have the same situation here : ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OLLO 0 Posted December 18, 2018 unfortunately winding doesn`t work ; ( I´ll have to reopen the movement and reassemble the keyless works one more time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OLLO 0 Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) Hi again, I had to open the watch again as the second hand came off and as I promised myself.... I reopened it to fix the winding problem after reassembly of the keyless. Any help would be appreciated as always. kind regards Oliver Edited March 28, 2019 by OLLO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites