jp09 1 Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) @Bill_Niggs which factory made this sub? Edited May 20, 2019 by jp09 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FudgyDocker 3,505 Posted May 20, 2019 @jp09, the clue is in the title of the listing (and the description), as with all TD's listings . I'll give you a clue. One of the words is Factory.... Suffice to say, it isn't one of the 4 compared above! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattpne 64 Posted May 20, 2019 Awesome review and stunning pics. May have to make a ZZF sub my next purchase! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Logixa 8 Posted May 20, 2019 Arf case, zzf dial, arf hands, zzf bracelet, zzf date wheel and a gen crystal and we have an amazing piece ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuvarsit 6 Posted May 20, 2019 Noob never disappoints Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FudgyDocker 3,505 Posted May 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, kuvarsit said: Noob never disappoints Just looking at some items of the 4 reps in this article, the side profile of the teeth on the Noob bezel are terrible compared to all of the others. The colour of the engravings on the bezel is not good either. The pearl depth is the worst of the 4 reps, too. There's probably more but I would say, looking at the close-ups, Noob is quite exposed and looking like "Noob does disappoint!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RussP 22,452 Posted May 20, 2019 26 minutes ago, Logixa said: Arf case, zzf dial, arf hands, zzf bracelet, zzf date wheel and a gen crystal and we have an amazing piece ! + ARF bezel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thommo82 1,397 Posted May 21, 2019 ARF really need to do something about that date wheel though..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulvillo 364 Posted May 21, 2019 Hello again RWG members, And yeah, I know some details that people want to see were not shown in this topic yet. But don’t worry. As I mentioned in this topic title that this is a PART I review, so there will be a PART II coming soon as well. Actually, we are planning to tear the watches apart (maybe not the new GEN lol) and do a deeper comparison on some other parts such as hands, dial, bracelet, case, crown and etc. Please keep on attention to it, I think you will see more interesting things in our PART II review.Hey Li, definitely looking forward to part II Not to mention the price point for this. Just curious, are you in any way affiliated to ZZF?Cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcjcamargo 0 Posted May 21, 2019 12 hours ago, jtimewatch said: Many thanks to our admins for sticky this thread, I really appreciate it. And I am also very glad that many of our members like this thread. My team and I will share some more interesting stuffs here later on. Thank you all. One thing I noticed is that the engravings in the rehaut are not as good as they supposed to be. The engravings in the rehaut of the genuine are double lined... ZZF still didn't get it spot on but I think this is a relatively easy thing to fix. Through the pictures I see that Noob has the most accurate engravings in the rehaut IMO. Besides that, ZZF has the potential to be the most accurate replica so far. Congratulations! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mystery Shopper 5,887 Posted May 21, 2019 Thank you Li for such a comprehensive review. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtimewatch 25 Posted May 21, 2019 7 hours ago, paulvillo said: Not to mention the price point for this. Just curious, are you in any way affiliated to ZZF? Hahaha, I think I am not supposed to mention any price here as I am not TD here. About affiliating to ZZF, well I think you can have a guess lol. Cheers mate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
k4jun 251 Posted May 21, 2019 7 hours ago, jcjcamargo said: One thing I noticed is that the engravings in the rehaut are not as good as they supposed to be. The engravings in the rehaut of the genuine are double lined... ZZF still didn't get it spot on but I think this is a relatively easy thing to fix. Through the pictures I see that Noob has the most accurate engravings in the rehaut IMO. Besides that, ZZF has the potential to be the most accurate replica so far. Congratulations! That's not a flaw for ZZF. There are two types of the rehaut. Old - engraved and new rehaut - laser etched. In these photos gen, arf, noob are old rehaut, zzf and nail are new rehaut. Tho, ZZF rehaut is not top quality. jtime, congrats on this crystal - this is a first time when we see a rep crystal with the correct edge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtimewatch 25 Posted May 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Mystery Shopper said: Thank you Li for such a comprehensive review. No problem, it is also my honor can share interesting things here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtimewatch 25 Posted May 21, 2019 1 minute ago, k4jun said: There are two types of the rehaut. Old - engraved and new rehaut - laser etched. In these photos gen, arf, noob are old rehaut, zzf and nail are new rehaut. hahaha , seems you are the only one who got this point as far. Cheers K4, good to see you here lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RussP 22,452 Posted May 21, 2019 8 hours ago, Thommo82 said: ARF really need to do something about that date wheel though..... It is a tad higher magnified compared to the gen. Nice for us older guys.............no complaints here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
k4jun 251 Posted May 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, jtimewatch said: hahaha , seems you are the only one who got this point as far. Cheers K4, good to see you here lol. Crystal is new, insert and bezel are new too. I like what you did, like how you are developing the new parts. I can't stand those makers who take noob/bp parts, mix them all together and call it "the best super rep from a new factory!" Now it happens every two fucking week. You should be a TD here, RWG is bigger than RG, it is much more relaxed board but there are many solid members, oldfags Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thommo82 1,397 Posted May 21, 2019 2 hours ago, RussP said: It is a tad higher magnified compared to the gen. Nice for us older guys.............no complaints here. That’s not exactly what I meant mate. I think the font is too thick. Cheapens the look of it IMO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
herkplt 2 Posted May 21, 2019 I've been trying to decide between the ARF and Noob. This ZZF seems to have it all. Looking forward to part II. Chris Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vbastos 127 Posted May 21, 2019 Very good review. Looking forward for the next part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulvillo 364 Posted May 21, 2019 Hahaha, I think I am not supposed to mention any price here as I am not TD here. About affiliating to ZZF, well I think you can have a guess lol. Cheers mate.Touché Cheers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glaude 1,615 Posted May 22, 2019 15 hours ago, k4jun said: You should be a TD here, RWG is bigger than RG, it is much more relaxed board but there are many solid members, oldfags He's a probationary TD at RWI, that's quite big already Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ksuich 0 Posted May 23, 2019 (edited) Where can u purchase the ZZF from? Edited May 23, 2019 by Ksuich Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferax 801 Posted May 23, 2019 @jtimewatch I would also like to know when is it going to be available? Looks great! I need a submariner for my collection... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P7ast1k 0 Posted May 23, 2019 (edited) It's up for pre-order on his site: https://jtimestore.net/submariner-116610-ln-black-ceramic-zzf-1-1-best-edition-904l-ss-case-and-bracelet-a2836.html According to a post on RWI yesterday, they should be available in approximately 10 days Edited May 23, 2019 by P7ast1k Share this post Link to post Share on other sites