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P7ast1k

Wow, this is great.

Very nice job @BADBILLY

Looks better than the plating by the rep factories lol

 

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BADBILLY

Still working on the modded dial......

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TwoTonesBubba

Lol, that is fucking disgusting. However, it's super impressive so well done!!!! How thick is it though? Would a scratch fuck it up?

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FudgyDocker

Nice job so far. Well done, dude.

 

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BADBILLY
30 minutes ago, TwoTonesBubba said:

Lol, that is fucking disgusting. However, it's super impressive so well done!!!! How thick is it though? Would a scratch fuck it up?

The amount of time that the plated object is immersed in the bath process determines the thickness. Too much can yield unfavorable results.

The thickness can be measured using an XRF- X-Ray Flourescence Spectroscopy test. I have found some handheld versions that I am researching  that can measure the thickness. But will look at the schematics of the instrument prior to purchase to see if I can just build one for myself.

The watch pictured above is at about 3 microns (not verified by test equipment yet, only estimating  by time and voltage measurements.) 

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Glaude
3 minutes ago, BADBILLY said:

The thickness can be measured using an XRF- X-Ray Flourescence Spectroscopy test. I have found some handheld versions that I am researching  that can measure the thickness. But will look at the schematics of the instrument prior to purchase to see if I can just build one for myself.

Those are expensive and very very complex machine as far as I remember

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TwoTonesBubba
1 minute ago, BADBILLY said:

The amount of time that the plated object is immersed in the bath process determines the thickness. Too much can yield unfavorable results.

The thickness can be measured using an XRF- X-Ray Flourescence Spectroscopy test. I have found some handheld versions that I am researching  that can measure the thickness. But will look at the schematics of the instrument prior to purchase to see if I can just build one for myself.

The watch pictured above is at about 3 microns (not verified by test equipment yet, only estimating  by time and voltage measurements.) 

All I read there was, 'Blah blah....geek stuff....blah blah..... chemistry.....blah blah....finally lost it in my late 20s....' etc. ;)

I'm guessing a scratch would fuck it up?

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1 minute ago, TwoTonesBubba said:

All I read there was, 'Blah blah....geek stuff....blah blah..... chemistry.....blah blah....finally lost it in my late 20s....' etc. ;)

I'm guessing a scratch would fuck it up?

no more so on than on stainless steel. both can be polished out. Only difference is the depth of the scratch can be deeper than the plating.

A scratch is a scratch. the plating does hold up for usual scuffs.

if a scratch is too deep then you polish and replate.

5 minutes ago, Glaude said:

Those are expensive and very very complex machine as far as I remember

I am looking at one that I found at Grainger for about $150

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13 minutes ago, BADBILLY said:

no more so on than on stainless steel. both can be polished out. Only difference is the depth of the scratch can be deeper than the plating.

A scratch is a scratch. the plating does hold up for usual scuffs.

if a scratch is too deep then you polish and replate.

I am looking at one that I found at Grainger for about $150

Price decreased a lot then, I remember them costing way more than that ! 

Got a link ?

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BADBILLY
1 hour ago, Glaude said:

Price decreased a lot then, I remember them costing way more than that ! 

Got a link ?

http://www.extech.com/display/?id=14389

https://www.grainger.com/product/5GTH1?cm_sp=Product_Details-_-Products_Based_on_Your_Search-_-IDPPLARECS&cm_vc=IDPPLARECS

 

This is what I am looking at, what do you think?

It says that it works on electromagnetic principals, to determine the coating thickness. ( I called Extech's sales department , the representative informed me that it will work for gold plating thickness determination, but not certain of her technical ability so still in the research phase).

I am also looking into a formula of heat dissipation rates for gold thicknesses to see  if it is feasible to just use a infrared thermometer to calculate the plating thickness.

the x-ray fluorescence spectroscopy units are large and expensive, so I am exploring the various methods to achieve an inexpensive method to measure. I have seen hand held units in use at jewelry shops. 

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Glaude

Yes that's what I found, I figured you couldn't be talking about such a cheap price for an actual XRF handheld machine, I think the lowest price for them is around $2000

With heat dissipation you'll have to establish a base reading on the non plated parts, but that could give you an idea, but not really sure you'll have a precise enough measurement, plating is rather thin

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Mkiv
54 minutes ago, BADBILLY said:

http://www.extech.com/display/?id=14389

https://www.grainger.com/product/5GTH1?cm_sp=Product_Details-_-Products_Based_on_Your_Search-_-IDPPLARECS&cm_vc=IDPPLARECS

 

This is what I am looking at, what do you think?

It says that it works on electromagnetic principals, to determine the coating thickness. ( I called Extech's sales department , the representative informed me that it will work for gold plating thickness determination, but not certain of her technical ability so still in the research phase).

I am also looking into a formula of heat dissipation rates for gold thicknesses to see  if it is feasible to just use a infrared thermometer to calculate the plating thickness.

the x-ray fluorescence spectroscopy units are large and expensive, so I am exploring the various methods to achieve an inexpensive method to measure. I have seen hand held units in use at jewelry shops. 

You may want to take a look on amazon.  Here are two similar ones that are approx $130, and there are others on there as well.

https://www.amazon.com/ERAY-Thickness-Handheld-Automotive-Backlight/dp/B01GO4ZXJ8/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=eray&qid=1560963249&s=gateway&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.com/Thickness-CM-208FN-Automatic-Resolution-0-001mils/dp/B07KQ4TQFB

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