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Gen Omega 175.0032 Speedmaster Reduced (to a pile of rust)

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hanski

I’m still waiting on my refinished gen Tudor 7016/0 dial from the dial guy - so what should I do while I wait...? 

Oh, why not gamble on a broken, gen Speedmaster reduced up for auction on eBay? That seems like a sensible way to spend money and time. 

Well the auction was straight forward enough - images showed a slightly rusty 3220 movement without an oscillating weight and rusty stem. Seems likely water got it thru the tube, rusted the stem, and sat in the case back to rust the weight. Few parts, some cleaning, no problem. Oh and a new sweep hand. 

Showed up two days later, looking like the auction but basically filled with oil. Huh, cool, that wasn’t obvious in the pics, not mentioned in the description, and not mentioned in answers to my line of questions. I’ll have to contact him with some dissatisfaction on that. 

Well here’s my project, restore this obviously damaged Speedmaster to working condition.  

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hanski

Watch is fully disassembled and ready for cleaning & inspection. But some of it doesn’t need to wait for the cleaning - the Dépraz Dubois Module is shot. So is the automatic works and barrel bridge. Basically, I’m in it for a new 3220 movement since I can’t seem to find a DD module to purchase and the other parts nearly add up to a NOS movement. Luckily it’s available now and on its way - phew. 

Looks like I’ll need: new movement, crown, pushers, sweep hand, spring bar for bracelet clasp, and maybe a crystal for good measure. 

Dial is in surprisingly nice condition. It’s developed a light patina and the lume has aged with the oil. Unfortunately the dial feet rusted off - I’ll have to resolder some on once I get rid of the oil. Last thing I need to a dial on fire...

Same goes for the hands. 

Case and bezel look good otherwise. 

Mainspring is in excellent shape. 

I think after cleaning I will take stock of what parts are needed and build an Omega 1120 with this as the base. At least that’ll help offset some of the cost of repairs. 

Onwards and upwards! 

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BM284

 Have nothing but admiration for your projects... look forward to seeing how this works out. I’m sure the end result will be spectacular as usual! Out of interest what was the price for the damaged speedy on the bay? 

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deju

Amazing thanks for sharing ( usually we only get people modifying them into this state lol)

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ShovelnTC

Well I see you like a challenge.

Good luck and looking forward to seeing the result.

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Saxa

Ten out of Ten for persistence with that Omega, looks like it was in an awful state, 

You've got balls to take that renovation on , a little too much work for my tastes howver I wish you welll with the project and please keep us updated as to your progress and PICs of the  Watch when doen would be awesome..

 

Good Luck. Saxa 

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BenjaminButton

Very interesting, thank you for sharing. Would be fascinating to see it progress in the thread.

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NCRich

You know those don't cost much in running condition, right?

:rofl:

 

But a fun project, be interesting to see the work.

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TheGingerFerret

To think I'm proud of myself when I polish out a scratch! What a project! Awesome!

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FudgyDocker

Looks like someone dropped it in the shitter while winding it (after the aforementioned dump)!

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hanski
6 hours ago, BM284 said:

 Have nothing but admiration for your projects... look forward to seeing how this works out. I’m sure the end result will be spectacular as usual! Out of interest what was the price for the damaged speedy on the bay? 

$880. Other broken ones have sold for $800-$1000. Prices for unserviced are about $1200-$1300. Then the auctions are selling at $1300-$1700. Buy it now $2100-$2400. So even with the repairs I’ll be at the low end of the price spectrum but with a story, experience, and maybe a bonus movement. 

4 hours ago, NCRich said:

You know those don't cost much in running condition, right?

:rofl:

 

But a fun project, be interesting to see the work.

Ha! I know! I’ve been watching the prices. I think I could sell at the end of the project and be made whole. 

But repairing and restoring them is such fun. 

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FudgyDocker

If you can work some magic on that, it'll be lovely. There's sooo much crud and filth on it, though!

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Patu

Awesome.  Great start to an amazing project.  Looking forward to the next picture post.

for spare parts order and the like, is there an exploded view diagram somewhere on line with part numbers?

BR

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Or4n6e

Looking forward to this project and it's updates :-)

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hanski

If I can impart one bit of advice, don’t pour oil into a corroded movement in hope to save it  the oil will get everywhere and is absolutely not good for a matte black dial like this. I took great care to remove the oil from the dial but five of the lume plots fell off. The missing 40 and worn 20 on the subdials were all ready missing. I ended up reattaching 55, 60, 10, 25, and 35. Now the dial is clean and ready for dial feet. 

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It’s hard to imagine what happened to this watch. Filled with water long enough to fully rust out the DD module and blacken the rotor. Pretty substantially scuffed, dented, and scratched. Worn paint on the dial. Hmmm...there’s some kind of a story here that I’d love to hear. 

Case, case back, pushers, crown, and crystal cleaned, de-rusted, and repolished. Turned out the pushers and crown were in fine condition after cleaning. 

Did my best to restore the factory finishes but without eliminating any sign of age. This is to say, I sanded down some of the scratches and wear but not on the point of sharp edges. I then brushed the side + top of the case and the flat of the case back. Then polished the chamfers, bezel, case back, pushers, and crown. 

Bracelet is next. Then onto seeing what parts of the movement I can salvage. 

Still waiting on the new movement and chrono sweep hand. 

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hanski

Quick project update: 

- Continued to clean up the dial, soldered on new dial feet, and relumed both the hands and dial to match. 

- Repaired, repolished, and rebrushed the bracelet. Paid close attention to polishing only what should be and brushing the rest in the correct directionality. 

- De-rusted and started cleaning the movement parts. Evaluating what I can save and what’s scrap. I’ll post an update on what’s what when I get through all the pieces. 

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TheGingerFerret

You're getting there! Now you just need to make it tick......

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Patu

Awesome work!!  I like seeing the full watch taken into pieces . . . And then  the true labor of love . . .  to assemble back together.

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LightGeek

Sounds like fun and love the teardowns! Now that said, I would have just given Omega $700 CAD to take it back to just about brand new.    :)

 

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3 minutes ago, LightGeek said:

Sounds like fun and love the teardowns! Now that said, I would have just given Omega $700 CAD to take it back to just about brand new.    :)

 

Ha! I should only be in it for about 1/2 that but with the enjoyment of rebuilding and all the extra parts I could in turn use/sell. 

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58 minutes ago, hanski said:

Ha! I should only be in it for about 1/2 that but with the enjoyment of rebuilding and all the extra parts I could in turn use/sell. 

Indeed. The sense of accomplishment (or fury) is immeasurable.

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Escapizm

Very impressive, watching this thread intently missing my own gen, I'm offshore and wear trusty Seiko for  work...

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brang1

just amazing taking on a job like this, you obviously are pretty damn good at it. And the satisfaction after restoring this beauty should make it all worth while albeit a little poorer

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Chixisigma

Wow - amazing project! So much knowledge and skill on display

Cxs

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hanski

I’m about 33% satisfied with the movement clean up. I was able to save a few big ticket items (main plate, balance bridge, and balance wheel) but not all of them. The automatic works and barrel bridge were both lost to rust. Unfortunately the train wheels were all also lost to rust. The keyless works was mostly lost to rust and what I could save contains some pitting - so I’m apt to replace. DD module seems to have some parts that could be saved but being unfamiliar with it and replacement part availability, I decided not to disassemble. 

In the end, I have a good start to building an Omega 1120 or parting the salvaged pieces. I’ll have to cost out the various parts needed to build and compare against the going rate for that movement. 

For now, I’m just waiting on my new 3220 movement. 

Pics below, right side is scrap, left side is saved, middle is pitted keyless works parts. 

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