gottahaverolex 0 Posted June 3, 2011 My new 177M keeps stopping randomly. I opened it up and checked for anything obvious that may be wrong. Everything looks correct , all screws are tight but not too tight. No obstructions or anything of the like. Any ideas as to what may be the issue here? It'll run fine for two or three days then then next day it'll stop ten times within a few hours. A light tap will get it ticking again. I know these H factory movements have been iffy at best but I'm not going the route of swapping movements if I can help it. What say ye!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeNnY 29 Posted June 3, 2011 I bet there will be some H factory hair Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg_r 83 Posted June 3, 2011 I'd swap it - even the 'good' ones are pretty shoddy. My 177L (which was QC'd by Robert and is therefore working fairly well) feels like crap when it's wound and is definitely going to be getting a movement upgrade in due course... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gottahaverolex 0 Posted June 3, 2011 I'd swap it - even the 'good' ones are pretty shoddy. My 177L (which was QC'd by Robert and is therefore working fairly well) feels like crap when it's wound and is definitely going to be getting a movement upgrade in due course... I know the swap is the only fix, just hate to keep pouring money into a brand new watch. I guess I'll just buy new movements for all my ULTIMATE reps and swap them. Just seems silly to put these sub par movements in such nice new models. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Del 4,528 Posted June 3, 2011 Sorry to hear this ghr. Do you think these "H" movements are actually crap or have they just been badly assembled and are in need of a service? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gottahaverolex 0 Posted June 3, 2011 Sorry to hear this ghr. Do you think these "H" movements are actually crap or have they just been badly assembled and are in need of a service? Hard to say Del, I'm sure a good servicing could resurrect some of them but the problems most guys are having are parts actually breaking. Such as my mainspring in my 005. nothing a servicing can do for that! I have opened every one of my ultimate PAMs and checked every screw in every one and found that ALL of them had a loose stem set screw, not to mention loose bridge screws. If this is happening to most of them it could explain all the winding / keyless works problems everyone seems to be having. On another note, I just noticed the CG was loose on the 177, I'm wondering if the stem wasn't pushed in tight enough and maybe that is why it kept stopping randomly!? I tightened it up and so far so good! YAY!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Del 4,528 Posted June 3, 2011 Hard to say Del, I'm sure a good servicing could resurrect some of them but the problems most guys are having are parts actually breaking. Such as my mainspring in my 005. nothing a servicing can do for that! I have opened every one of my ultimate PAMs and checked every screw in every one and found that ALL of them had a loose stem set screw, not to mention loose bridge screws. If this is happening to most of them it could explain all the winding / keyless works problems everyone seems to be having. On another note, I just noticed the CG was loose on the 177, I'm wondering if the stem wasn't pushed in tight enough and maybe that is why it kept stopping randomly!? I tightened it up and so far so good! YAY!!! Yeah, good point - if parts are breaking then clearly they are poor quality. Having said that, loose screws aren't going to help either! Hope you've found the problem on your 177... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David543 0 Posted June 3, 2011 Sorry to hear that, I was gonna suggest a service as the movement can get 'sticky' if it's oil is old, it didn't have oil or there is stuff in it. But if bits keep breaking.... Well that just means the materials are poor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
68 Bullit 0 Posted June 4, 2011 Does this mean that all of the 177L and 177M ultimate 1:1 reps will potentially need a replacement 6497 movement? So far mine has been no problem, but I am now thinking of buying a back-up movement, does anyone have a recommended movement that would further enhace this fabulous rep? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luthier 1 Posted June 4, 2011 Somebody said 6497 is a bulletproof mov't... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fed949 0 Posted June 4, 2011 Somebody said 6497 is a bulletproof mov't... Quality control is sometime hard to maintain for replica watch. Its like lottery, you sometime get the excellent one and sometime...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silverspeed 10 Posted June 4, 2011 The 6497 is normally a very solid movement, but when the factories decide to use the cheapest of the cheapest version we'll end up with pieces of crap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gtwc 1 Posted June 4, 2011 My 177L stopped working after I shook it whilst trying to remove a broken screw in the lug. I fear it was scared to death. I now have a beautiful, super-lumed, non-working titanium beast - too light for a bookstop. And I'm sorry to see that Getat no longer offers 6497s, only 6498s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gottahaverolex 0 Posted June 4, 2011 My 177L stopped working after I shook it whilst trying to remove a broken screw in the lug.I fear it was scared to death. I now have a beautiful, super-lumed, non-working titanium beast - too light for a bookstop. And I'm sorry to see that Getat no longer offers 6497s, only 6498s. Over at RG there are several threads on where to get very good movements for the swap. Angus has them and Robert says he'll have them available very soon.my loose CG was definitely causing my issue, running like a champ now! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silverspeed 10 Posted June 4, 2011 Plenty of decent A6497's are available on ebay....bought a couple some time ago for $35 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sconehead 5 Posted June 4, 2011 ...for those of you who bought one directly off Robert, there's a thread in his section on the matter...act quickly, he who hesitates an' all that...:P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
