Aramis2288 6,253 Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) Hi there folks, Does anyone of you happened to own one of these reps of DiW forged carbon Daytonas? I do think that Gens look amazing and I was surprised when some time ago I saw a rep of it. For reference: Gen: https://designa-individual.com/en/watches/carbon-w If it is about the rep, however, even though they are available since a while, there is not much noise around them in general. I was curious if any of you guys either own one of these or know somebody who does. It would be good to get posted some hi-res photos of the rep in real-life conditions. For now my observations are quite obvious: 1. It is A7750 based rep which means that it's a 'fat' Daytona (+ all of the potential reliability problems that may come with this movement if one is unlucky) 2. The dial of the gen is made of a forged carbon just like the case and bezel, while the dial on the rep seems to be made of normal black composite. Weird given that they managed to make a case of forged carbon why wouldn't they go for a dial as well. 3. The crystal seems to sticking the hell out. Rep (example model): https://trustytime.shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_6&products_id=20466 https://trustytime.shop/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=diw+daytona&x=0&y=0 https://chazingtime06.co/search/content/diw What do you folks think? Edited May 13, 2020 by Aramis2288 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deju 1,870 Posted May 13, 2020 It’s cool but I’d want an arf case with modified A7750 or a Noob, I couldn’t live with the fat case and A7750 time bomb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rikracy 1,693 Posted May 13, 2020 Strange as it might seem..I actually prefer the plain rep dial! The gen dial looks way too busy? Agree, 7750 fatness is a downside, too!! Red Chrono subdial hands would look better, too! Just my opinion.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aramis2288 6,253 Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, deju said: It’s cool but I’d want an arf case with modified A7750 or a Noob, I couldn’t live with the fat case and A7750 time bomb This is my main concern as well. You are getting fat-tona and it costs around the same price tag as ARF. 55 minutes ago, rikracy said: Strange as it might seem..I actually prefer the plain rep dial! The gen dial looks way too busy? Agree, 7750 fatness is a downside, too!! Red Chrono subdial hands would look better, too! Just my opinion.. I am inclined to agree with your statement about the red subdial hands! If it is about dial I would prefer having gen-like one. Just to have it as similar for the gen as you can (and yes i know this timepiece is so rare that nobody would be able spot that most probably, but still...) Edited May 13, 2020 by Aramis2288 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BravoDelta 22,441 Posted May 13, 2020 My strictly non technical opinion, as the heading is "hot or not"...Not. Maybe it would be better irl, but I dont care for that look. Certainly wouldnt pop $500 + for it. My 2 cents 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aramis2288 6,253 Posted May 13, 2020 For me the main issue is fat A7750. But I am into that forged carbon look in general. what I am really hoping for is that the maker will rep this GMT soon. If well done can be a good hit. Especially that there is a big variety of 28.800 bpm movements that can handle GMT and date complication without impacting the dimensions of the watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BravoDelta 22,441 Posted May 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, Aramis2288 said: For me the main issue is fat A7750. But I am into that forged carbon look in general. what I am really hoping for is that the maker will rep this GMT soon. If well done can be a good hit. Especially that there is a big variety of 28.800 bpm movements that can handle GMT and date complication without impacting the dimensions of the watch. Now that one I like...Hot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
k4jun 251 Posted May 13, 2020 All carbon DiW's are HOT!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aramis2288 6,253 Posted May 13, 2020 36 minutes ago, k4jun said: All carbon DiW's are HOT!!! Even this one? LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
k4jun 251 Posted May 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Aramis2288 said: Even this one? LOL Lol, Ok I haven't seen that, lol. Then I recall it and change for "most of carbon DiW's are HOT" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aramis2288 6,253 Posted May 13, 2020 Lol, Ok I haven't seen that, lol. Then I recall it and change for "most of carbon DiW's are HOT"Hahahah, yeah, that's more like it Sent from my LYA-L29 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
josmcg 0 Posted May 14, 2020 The carbon coating will wear off quickly. I’ve owned a few Gens that were carbon. The black wore off very quickly. Even on a $600 Bulova. Never again. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simonix 8,660 Posted May 14, 2020 Not if it’s made from solid carbon. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aramis2288 6,253 Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Simonix said: Not if it’s made from solid carbon. Exactly. 24 minutes ago, josmcg said: 14 minutes ago, josmcg said: The carbon coating will wear off quickly. I’ve owned a few Gens that were carbon. The black wore off very quickly. Even on a $600 Bulova. Never again. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The PVD / DLC coating or gold plating wears off as it is just a layer of a certain material covering the steel base. In regards to carbon, I would disagree. For example, I happened to own a carbon fibre phone case which I got from AliExpress. Even though the case is covered with carbon fibre (and some epoxy on the top) and not made of solid carbon, I cannot see it wearing off over months of abusement. And let's be honest - the phone is getting way more punishment than a watch. In the case of the solid carbon case, it should not be 'wearing off'. In terms of the case when the carbon could wear off, I guess it can happen with things such as stainless steel watches which have PVD layer giving a look of carbon - after all it is just a PVD - example: https://trustytime.shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=37_47&products_id=16324 Edited May 14, 2020 by Aramis2288 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike R 1,336 Posted May 21, 2020 Idk, for me Daytona and stealth style do not fit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aramis2288 6,253 Posted March 29, 2021 Interestingly, Noob made not-fat Daytona with a clone movement. Nice stuff. The price, however.... https://trustytime.io/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_6&products_id=22875 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deju 1,870 Posted March 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Aramis2288 said: Interestingly, Noob made not-fat Daytona with a clone movement. Nice stuff. The price, however.... https://trustytime.io/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_6&products_id=22875 Yup the 1:1 DiW is here, in fairness not that much more for the carbon case over the standard, but I don’t love it enough for it to be the most expensive non franken I’d buy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aramis2288 6,253 Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, deju said: Yup the 1:1 DiW is here, in fairness not that much more for the carbon case over the standard, but I don’t love it enough for it to be the most expensive non franken I’d buy Frankly, from all the weird custom versions of Rolex watches, I like the DiW one the most(*), but that's because I am into forged carbon look. Having said that, I would still much rather go for some ceramic bezel Noob V3 Daytona. What I do like, however, is that since last year there seems to be a bit more noise - before the releases of VSF & ZZF (etc.), Noob and ARF used to have the monopoly on the quality Rollies, so I guess they were not too motivated to innovate. Hopefully, we will see a similar trend in 2021. (*)Well, the DiW and perhaps the sub by Tempus Machina... Edited March 29, 2021 by Aramis2288 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glaude 1,615 Posted March 30, 2021 15 hours ago, Aramis2288 said: What I do like, however, is that since last year there seems to be a bit more noise - before the releases of VSF & ZZF (etc.), Noob and ARF used to have the monopoly on the quality Rollies, so I guess they were not too motivated to innovate. Hopefully, we will see a similar trend in 2021. (*)Well, the DiW and perhaps the sub by Tempus Machina... It's is nice indeed to see this custom release being made in the form of reps, I appreciate the irony of those rep even more given that brands don't like those customs made of their watches. I believe Rolex had a trial with Bamford at one point and maybe Label Noir too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aramis2288 6,253 Posted March 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Glaude said: It's is nice indeed to see this custom release being made in the form of reps, I appreciate the irony of those rep even more given that brands don't like those customs made of their watches. I believe Rolex had a trial with Bamford at one point and maybe Label Noir too Really? I didn't know that. I would've assumed that all of these companies must have some sort of deal with Rolex in order to be able to sell their pieces. All in all, I think that the absolute majority of custom(ish) pieces are made out of Rolex watches. And that's kind of understandable, as Rolex is a rather slowly evolving and conservative house. Try to compare it with the innovations that Omega or Panerai bring with their materials - two different worlds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glaude 1,615 Posted March 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Aramis2288 said: Really? I didn't know that. I would've assumed that all of these companies must have some sort of deal with Rolex in order to be able to sell their pieces. https://www.watchpro.com/rolex-on-solid-legal-footing-in-lawsuit-accusing-watch-customiser-of-counterfeiting/ 3 minutes ago, Aramis2288 said: All in all, I think that the absolute majority of custom(ish) pieces are made out of Rolex watches. And that's kind of understandable, as Rolex is a rather slowly evolving and conservative house. Try to compare it with the innovations that Omega or Panerai bring with their materials - two different worlds. Rolex are, for some reason, highly desirable, and relatively cheap when it come to high end watches (if you manage to get them retail of course), so I think they make for the perfect market for customizer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5teve 112 Posted April 13, 2021 In answer to Op. Yes 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glaude 1,615 Posted April 13, 2021 That do look nice ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deju 1,870 Posted April 13, 2021 On 30/03/2021 at 17:29, Glaude said: Rolex are, for some reason, highly desirable, and relatively cheap when it come to high end watches (if you manage to get them retail of course), so I think they make for the perfect market for customizer Silly French man..... Rolex make Tool watches not high end watches.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aramis2288 6,253 Posted April 13, 2021 9 hours ago, 5teve said: In answer to Op. Yes Is it a clone movement noob, or A7750 one? In either case, congrats, it's a stunner! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
