What's the Correct Thing to Do?

[texski 0]

I have a question about Member to Member sales and looking for the best way to go about this.

 

I have been recieving IWC parts regularly from Europe. The person that I buy from has sent pictures of dials that he has in his posession. I have purchased 4-5, but he still has 12+ left, and more available. I also have purchased other genuine parts from him, as well. How would I let others know that these parts are available? Is there a place where I could post the European pictures to see if there is a strong interest to purchase. If so, I purchase it, have it shipped, post here for sale with appropriate identification, and everything after that follows normal protocol.

 

The short of it is that he is not going to identify himself.

We can offer factory fresh product on a limited supply.

He has some very desirable things, but I am not going to tie up a bunch of money to buy many things in the event a a member might want someting.

But there are some beautiful tings being offered and some are highly sought after. i.e. - 3717 Chrono St Exupery dail, 3714 Laureus Dial, and Top Gun LE German Football Team dial.

 

So how can I make others aware of these? Once they are in my possession, then I will contact the interested parties and list it on this site.

[Nisv 0]

My 2 cents:

Post a thread in General Discussion, embed the pictures there and then ask how many of us here who would like to

get a hold of whatever it is that you're offering.

As to the actual sale, well, the sales rules applies to all of us.

But first things first, start by checking just how big a demand there is for your parts.

Then, depending of the outcome of that, check with the Mods & Admins regarding any sale

[Luthier 1]

First - ask Greg, if it's allowed.

[David543 0]

Check with a mod first as you may not have enough posts to sell anything yet!

[pollux1 3]

My guess is that these items will of course be high value, it will pay you great dividends to get to know the forum, hang around, shoot the breeze and get to learn about the place before offering anything for sale. It certainly won't do you any harm. Once you've met the criteria for selling then a bonus for you would be to have a long term member near you come view the items in person, it all breeds trust. Hope this is of a little help.

[JohnG 41]

Check with a mod first as you may not have enough posts to sell anything yet!

+1

[texski 0]

Thanks Guys. I was hoping a mod might see this and 'make a ruling.'

I have been spending my time among the various forms, trying to find the flavor of each.

My user name is the same on all.

I have recommended this site to others because it seems like there is more intellectual activity, instead of 20 minions spouting the same refrain.

 

@Nisv - There are some beautiful pieces that are not available with the reps. There seems to be a big demand for these on other sites. It bothers me, though, how the IWC sub-forums have become a blatent advertisment for some, and the mods turn their head.

 

@pollux1 - I'm not sure what 'high value' is here. I have seen numbers like $1,500. I will check. Trust is built when people do what they say . . . consistently. For it to be consistent, there has to be multiple events. I have already ordered things for people, and I hope that they will leave appropriate feedback. We have to start somewhere. I am in the Dallas/Fort Worth area and would be happy to anyone. Just bring your gloves and bibs. I don't want your fingerprints or you drule on these beauties.

 

If the mods don't jump in soon, who should I contact?

 

Thanks,

Mike

[Nisv 0]

If the mods don't jump in soon, who should I contact?

 

Thanks,

Mike

Just PM any of the Mods/Admins.

DON'T post any sale here, or anywhere else in the forum for that matter, before you know what goes and not

[pollux1 3]

You seem to have your head screwed on Mike, as others have said it's pointless posting a "for sale" until you're able to. It's for every members benefit that RWG does this as it saves us all from the scammers/ne're do wells out there. As I said it's always good to participate in the forum first, perhaps even just showing off some of the stuff you can get (and is in your hands) then I'm sure you'll find a buyer is out there for it. Good luck mate!

[greg_r 83]

Sorry, but we're not going to allow this here.

 

Member to member sales is for the sale of used items between members only - we don't allow selling for profit in the member sales area. Additionally, we don't allow group buys here (which this effectively appears to be).

 

Thread moved into General.

[texski 0]

Sorry, but we're not going to allow this here.

 

Member to member sales is for the sale of used items between members only - we don't allow selling for profit in the member sales area.

 

Thread moved into General.

 

Greg,

Thanks for your response.

I am trying to find the proper protocol.

What do you suggest?

 

Thanks again,

Mike

[greg_r 83]

Sorry Mike, but we're not going to allow you to sell your items here. I've seen too many of these kinda deals go sour in the past.

[texski 0]

Sorry Mike, but we're not going to allow you to sell your items here. I've seen too many of these kinda deals go sour in the past.

 

Greg,

You are the final word and I respect that.

It sounds like there have been some bad experiences in the past, and your choice is not to eliminate any chance of that happening again in the future.

I guess I could start my own forum, and deal with these headaches.

I would rather not.

 

I am sure that you have to deal with more problems than we will ever know about, and if I had your experience, I might choose your approach.

 

It seems like members of this forum think more critically about watches, and I appreciate that.

I would still like to participate here, unless I have already been branded as one of 'these kinda deals.'

 

Mike

Edited June 10, 2011 by texski

[greg_r 83]

Mike, this is nothing personal. We don't know each other and I have no reason to have anything other than a positive opinion of you.

 

However, we do not allow group buys here (or close approximations thereof) and never have. I'm sure that your intentions are good, but I've seen too many instances where someone acting as an intermediary for another supplier has ended up having problems of one sort or another.

 

Apologies - this is not intended as a slur on your character. I'm sure you're completely genuine in your offer, but we do not permit this kind of trading on RWG.

[PatronSaintofChainsaws 1]

Concepta offers essentially the same thing on other boards. Perhaps you should contact him to see what he says?

[greg_r 83]

Nice idea PSoC, I'd forgotten about Concepta.

[texski 0]

Greg,

I didn't take it personally. I think you are probably too nice some of the times, and you tend to give the benefit of the doubt.

I really am saying that I understand.

 

PSC and Greg, thank your for suggestions. I have given it some thought.

 

It's a philosophical issue, and not a personal one.

In my opinion, these gensteins are overstated, and when they are represented as Genuine, I disagree.

IWC does not sell movements.

These movements that are being represented as gen, are assembled with IWC parts.

This is not to slight the watchmaker that assembled these parts, but I doubt that the watchmaker does not have the same specialists and technology available to him that is found in Schaffhausen.

When these gensteins are sold for the third time, there is a chance that the successive owners will not know that these are not genuine, especially when it has been suggested to owners that they can get their watches certifided by AD's.

I think this is irresponsible, and don't want to contribute.

I am not imposing my morality on others, just not contributing to a situation I view differently.

 

I also find it annoying when people use the Manufacture Sub-Forum as an advertising forum, and avoiding the Forums' guidelines for sales.

So, while I don't have a venue for orphaned parts, I don't have to sort through self promoting advertisments disguised as a contribution to the Sub-Forum.

 

This diversion does have a direction.

I was hoping to be above board in my dealings, especially seeking direction and approval from Admin.

I hope to find homes for these parts another way.

 

Thanks again,

Mike

[greg_r 83]

Cool. Thanks Mike.