Tudor Black Bay 36 - Gen or Rep?

[c1181427 0]

Hi guys, after many years of replica watches I have decided to pull the trigger on a second hand genuine and would immensely appreciate your opinion on helping me establish if the watch is genuine. 
The watch is badly scratched but this has been taken into account in the asking price so I'm ok with that and will probably just have it polished.

Gen or rep?

Thanks in advance everyone.

Edited November 10, 2020 by c1181427

[Del 4,447]

With those photos?!  You can hardly tell what model of watch it is, let alone if it’s a rep. 
 

Your best bet is to ascertain the history of the watch and papers if possible, and does the seller have feedback or a track record. 

[Rx4Time 1,472]

Does it have box and papers? . What's the asking price?  Where was it listed?  As said you'll need high resolution pictures for any useful responses.   Those aren't exactly expensive even from reputable sources in good condition.  

[c1181427 0]

My apologies for the pics, I thought they'd be clickable and enlarge...will post the links shortly

The watch comes with box and papers, the asking price is 1600€ inc. shipping.

[c1181427 0]

 

[k4jun 251]

I wouldn't call it badly scratched, looks like a regular wear-signs on the watch which has been worn for a few years. Which is good cause clasp looks like pre-2020 clasp.

Looks very gen to me, but BB36 has been repped so good that personally I would like to open the back and see the balance regulator.

[Jibuti 958]

it really needs good and long hand job....

[deju 1,870]

11 minutes ago, Jibuti said:

it really needs good and long hand job....

Drunk @Jibuti is my favourite

[GingerApple 7,284]

The dial print looks more 3D then my rep so I'd plump for Gen - but it's hard to be sure.

[NCRich 13,746]

21 minutes ago, TheGingerFerret said:

The dial print looks more 3D then my rep so I'd plump for Gen - but it's hard to be sure.

That is really a plain watch.  Giving the 111 a run for the money.

 

[GingerApple 7,284]

11 minutes ago, NCRich said:

That is really a plain watch.  Giving the 111 a run for the money.

 

Indeed. And small.

[c1181427 0]

Thanks everyone. What about the back and the serial number? Do reps have random serials or do they all have the same ?  Would that be a good indication?

[k4jun 251]

No, there are at least 2 factories who rep this watch and they do not use the fixed serials.

[c1181427 0]

OK.  I shall wait for pictures of box and documentation and get back to you. In the meantime thanks everyone!

[Jibuti 958]

10 hours ago, deju said:

Drunk @Jibuti is my favourite

I do not drink for quite a while now. 

So sadly, for you, it was sober person 's comment. 

[GingerApple 7,284]

Jibs is one of those rare people that makes a lot more sense when he's paralytic.

[Jibuti 958]

6 hours ago, TheGingerFerret said:

Jibs is one of those rare people that makes a lot more sense when he's paralytic.

cheers.

luckily (still) not brain-paralytic.

[GingerApple 7,284]

5 minutes ago, Jibuti said:

cheers.

luckily (still) not brain-paralytic.

Cheers! I'll drink to that 

 

[Rx4Time 1,472]

One thing that the replica factories always seem to cheap out on is properly capping the seconds hand.  Here is a picture I took when I had both a genuine and a replica black bay GMT in hand before I sold off the replica.  Notice the capping of the second hand on the replica is open versus covered on the genuine. 

 

Compare the large pictures that OP posted versus the one that ginger posted.  Notice the difference of the second hand cap.  I would lean towards genuine but as said I really would like a movement shot focused on the balance. 

 

 

 

 

[black263 228]

On 11/11/2020 at 18:05, TheGingerFerret said:

Cheers! I'll drink to that 

 

You'd drink to anything.

[UmpaHimself 222]

1 hour ago, Rx4Time said:

One thing that the replica factories always seem to cheap out on is properly capping the seconds hand.  Here is a picture I took when I had both a genuine and a replica black bay GMT in hand before I sold off the replica.  Notice the capping of the second hand on the replica is open versus covered on the genuine. 

Not sure what you mean by "capping" but I'd like to know more.

[BadApple 13,081]

Tell tale without taking back off is that in the gen the lume paint on the 12 o'clock marker goes right  to the point......

 

[Rx4Time 1,472]

1 hour ago, UmpaHimself said:

Not sure what you mean by "capping" but I'd like to know more.

Notice the big hole in the center of the pinion in ginger's rep?  This is one area that to a greater or lesser extent the replica manufacturers tend to ignore or overlook

[Rocla 0]

I get my 79500 gen on my wrist : numbers on the caseback are not so readables (smallest font, and not ink inside), and your crown looks doubtful (on my gen there is no black ink in the rose in the center of the crown).

(My 2 cents)

(But maybe mine is a rep ! Everything seems to be possible since I discovered the reps. I bought mine on grey market, with box and papers but today it's no more a warranty)