NAUTILUS 5711 any good?

[gran 198]

The Patek Philippe Nautilus

 

 

 

 

A. GENUINE NAUTILUS IN DETAILS FIRST:

 

 

Current Mens Version: Patek Philippe Nautilus 5711

Newest Patek Philippe Nautilus 5711-1A

 

 

 

Current versions:

1. 5711-1A = All SSteel and on SSteel bracelet and Blue dial/face only

2. 5711G = White Gold and only on leather strap. Grey dial/face

3. 5711J = Yellow gold and only on leather strap. Silver dial/face

4. 5711R = PINK/RED gold and only on leather strap. Black dial/face

 

 

 

New accents in yellow, white and rose gold

 

 

 

 

To spotlight the aesthetic combination of materials, the dials match the case color in each version. They are silvery for the yellow-gold model, a warmer brown-charcoal for the rose-gold model, and a cool slate gray for the white-gold model. The brown-charcoal dial is galvanized and lacquered to produce a light-to-dark gradation from the center to the periphery. The silvery gray and slate gray dials are galvanized and not gradated. All dials feature the distinctive Nautilus horizontal embossing pattern and large applied luminous hour markers in yellow, white or rose gold to match the case.

 

These new Nautilus Grande Taille variations are worn on alligator straps – safari black with white gold, chocolate with yellow gold, and dark brown with rose gold. The fold-over clasp in matching gold is a new three-part design with a threaded length adjustment device for a particularly gentle and secure fit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Conclusion on the genuine versions:

So strictly speaking

 

1. Natulius 5711-1A with blue dial should be SS and have the SS bracelet

 

2. The Natulius 5711J Silver, 5711R Black and 5711G Grey dial ones should be in gold and have leather bracelets

 

3. However the White Gold 3711G version from 2004 to 2006 has a gray white gold bracelet Link: http://watch-fever.blogspot.com/2010/05/pa...g-nautilus.html

 

 

 

Note: there is also a current and previous smaller diameter Patek Philippe Nautilus and ladies versions but we will not discuss those here

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Nautilus History in brief:

 

Key dates

1976 3700/1A Presentation of first Nautilus, nicknamed “Jumboâ€, production discontinued 1990

 

1981 3800/1A Launch of medium model, production discontinued 2006

1981 4700/1A Launch of ladies’ model, production discontinued 2006

1998 3710/1A Relaunch of large “Jumbo†model with winding zone indicator IZR, production discontinued 2006

2004 3711/1A Launch of large model in white gold, + White Gold bracelet production discontinued 2006

 

2006 Launch of new NAUTILUS collection

 

 

Evolution of the new Nautilus 2006 collection

1. Case shape, rounded hinges

2. Sapphire-crystal caseback for all models of the collection

3. The shape of the hour markers matches contour of octagonal bezel at every position

4. Larger hands

5. Bracelet proportions slightly changed and connection improved

6. Models in gold with leather straps

7. First rose gold model in the Nautilus collection

8. New case design (three parts instead of two) with back and screw-down crown

9. New three-part fold-over clasp and double safety feature for leather straps

10. New case dimensions:New “Jumbo†size: 43 mm (original “Jumbo†size: 42 mm)

 

 

Technical data: Nautilus Ref. 5711/1A Steel

Movement Caliber 315 SC

Self-winding mechanical movement

Diameter: 27 mm

Height: 3.22 mm

Number of parts: 213

Number of jewels: 29

Power reserve: Min. 38 hours, max. 48 hours

Winding rotor: central rotor in 21K gold, unidirectional winding

Balance spring: Flat

Functions: Winding crown with three positions:

– Pushed in: To wind the movement

– Pulled halfway out: To correct the date

– Pulled out: To set the time

Displays:

– Hours, minutes, and sweep seconds

– Date aperture at 3 o'clock

Features:

Case: Three-part case (back, caseband, bezel)

Stainless steel, sapphire-crystal caseback, water-resistant screwdown crown

Bezel with vertical satin finish water-resistant to 120 meters

Case dimensions: 3 to 9 o’clock: 43 mm (including hinges)

3 to 9 o’clock including crown: 44.02 mm

6 to 12 o’clock: 38 mm (bezel)

2 to 8 o’clock: 40 mm

Height: 8.30 mm

Dial: Gradation from dark blue in the middle to black at the periphery, horizontal embossed pattern

12 applied baton hour markers in 18K white gold with luminous coating

Baton-style hour and minute hands in 18K white gold with luminous coating

Seconds hand in white gold

Bracelet: Stainless steel, middle links polished, outer links satin-finished, stainless steel fold-over clasp

 

Links:

 

http://patek.watchprosite.com/?show=forump...=619551&s=0

http://www.connectingwatches.com/forums/fs...e----50275.html

http://patek.watchprosite.com/show-forumpo.../ti-297220/s-0/

http://forums.watchnet.com/index.php?t=tre...15206&rid=0

http://www.watchfinder.co.uk/Patek-Philipp...4272-watch.aspx

http://patek.watchprosite.com/?show=nblog....;fi=112&s=0

http://patek.watchprosite.com/show-forumpo.../ti-437296/s-0/

http://www.connectingwatches.com/forums/fs...-r-j-50173.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

B. THE 5711 1:1 REPLICAS:

 

 

THE 1:1 version is the best replica of the NAUTILUS :thumbsupsmileyanim:

 

 

Conclusions:

 

1. The Blue dial 5711 Replica version with SS bracelet is closest to the original :thumbsupsmileyanim:

 

2. The hours markers follow he dial like on the genuine. The shape of the hour markers matches contour of octagonal bezel at every position :thumbsupsmileyanim: (The position or length of the hour markers at 6 and 12 O'Clock on Replica are maybe not identical to most pictures of the newest version of the original) :pardon:

 

3. The "gold" Replica versions i.e. those with silver, black or gray dial 1:1 versions should all have leather straps. also they should have gold stamps on the back that are missing on these 1:1 replicas :drinks:

 

4. Rotor on Replica is very very nice and a huge improvement but PATEK logo is not engraved but is a stick on :drinks:

 

5. Dimensions, Screw in crown, crystal, caseback, links on bracelet, hands etc. are close enough to the genuine :thumbsupsmileyanim:

 

6. The SS bracelet is of sufficiently quality but not quite 1:1 with the original (engraved logo on clasp is inferior and the extra holes in the replica bracelett is a negative). This could easily be improved? :pardon:

 

7. I have not inspected the straps so not sure on that.

 

8. Movement on replica is SWISS. The Sellita SW200 works excellent and nice super smooth 28.800 sweep (but obviously the genuine movement is a masterpiece and can not be replicated) :thumbsupsmileyanim:

 

9. The replica is of a high quality product and QC seems better than on most replicas :thumbsupsmileyanim:

 

10 Position of date window is correct :thumbsupsmileyanim: and font and size of date is acceptable :thumbsupsmileyanim:

 

11. The hour markers follow the case shape in the same way as the original :thumbsupsmileyanim:

 

12. Lume is on hands and hour markers but is replica style and weak :victory:

 

To sum it up this is an excellent replica in most ways and I will use this watch as often as I can :thumbsupsmileyanim: (Even if the SS bracelett could be improved, and also an engraved insignia rater than stick-on to the gold rotor would be better. Also there is the question of the position of the hour markers at 12 and 6 O'Clock but some genuines seem to be exactly like the replica in this respect)

 

 

 

C. My 5711G Replica from MARY

 

MY REPLICA of the 5711G (or actually it is more like the 3711/1G?)

 

 

 

D. THE GENUINE 5711G

 

E. More details on genuine Nautilus versions 5711-1, 5711G

 

 

 

 

Note more details later :whistling:

 

 

Note: The NAUTILUS 3711/1G produced only from 2004 to 2006 was in white gold with white gold bracelett.

 

Ref 3711/1A White Gold Nautilus. The Last one is very very rare, believe there is less than 100o pieces ever made.This combination is not available on the current 5711 series. Notice that the hour markers differ from current 5711 version

 

 

Some links to the replica here on RWG:

http://www.rwgforum.com/topic/131048-patek...__1#entry960816

 

 

http://www.rwgforum.com/topic/130376-new-p...__1#entry954956

 

http://www.rwgforum.com/topic/127625-fs-pp...__1#entry928328

[KeNnY 29]

Very nice !

[wat44 0]

excellent!

[Takken 0]

Great photos, story and looks like a good replica also. Super stuff!

[gtwc 1]

Great history lesson, super pics.

Thanks.

[solkryssare 109]

WOT!? Excellent! Post this on RG and we'll give you one of those awards. Ask Akira, he loves his

[greg_r 81]

Bloody marvellous review, Gran.

 

With your permission I'll move this into the Patek section and sticky it.

[gran 198]

Bloody marvellous review, Gran.

 

With your permission I'll move this into the Patek section and sticky it.

 

yes boss

[greg_r 81]

Done. Thanks, Gran

[NFleischer 4,355]

Great job, and very nice watch. Thanks.

 

I'd like to get one of those, Lay has them on sale now. Almost $400 still, arrggh

[Jannis76 0]

Awesome job Gran!

 

Thanks!

 

Cheers,

 

Jannis

[Luthier 1]

What is the size of Mary's replica? I doubt it's 43mm, looks very small, unless your wrist is 8,5".

[czmilosz 0]

I haven't been here long, and I don't fancy that particular Patek model.

 

But, this type of information is exactly why this place is so valuable.

 

Thanks for your work gran

[robznet 0]

Superb review and great pics - very interesting read, thanks for your time & patience!

 

Oh and thanks also for being my 100th post!!!!

[sconehead 5]

...very detailed review mate, an excellent read...:P

 

 

@Sol...awardwhore...

[Member X 91]

Excellent review, thank you!

[Monsieur_B 0]

Best review I have ever seenfor a rep watch. Good job mate!

[webvan 0]

Wow, what a review!

 

I could have sworn the 3711/1G was around in the 90s too and with a blue dial...might have been another reference.

 

I have the MBK version and while the dial color, markers and date window are off, it doesn't have that extra hole in the bracelet! Would be great to see a comparison.

[webvan 0]

I could have sworn the 3711/1G was around in the 90s too and with a blue dial...might have been another reference.

Figured it out, it was the 3800/1G, all WG with a blue dial and 37.7mm instead of 42mm for the original jumbo.

 

The 3711/1G, the "jumbo" WG, apparently uses the old jumbo case design with the concave "ears", vs the convex "ears" on the 5711x models.

[gran 198]

Excellent review, thank you!

 

you are way to kind Member X

[jeffw69 0]

Damn you Gran!!!!

Now I have to go and buy one of these thanks to your most excellent write up!

 

Thanks,

 

Jeff

[gran 198]

Damn you Gran!!!!

Now I have to go and buy one of these thanks to your most excellent write up!

 

Thanks,

 

Jeff

 

Get the gold one..from Joshua maybe..or Mary

 

[jeffw69 0]

Damn you Gran!!!!

Now I have to go and buy one of these thanks to your most excellent write up!

 

Thanks,

 

Jeff

 

Get the gold one..from Joshua maybe..or Mary

 

 

 

Gold with grey dial and leather strap?

 

I like that one as well.

$428 with sellita 200-1 mvmt.

[gran 198]

Damn you Gran!!!!

Now I have to go and buy one of these thanks to your most excellent write up!

 

Thanks,

 

Jeff

 

Get the gold one..from Joshua maybe..or Mary

 

 

 

Gold with grey dial and leather strap?

 

I like that one as well.

$428 with sellita 200-1 mvmt.

 

Not cheap i Know....maybe you should just get an UPO with asian movement instead?

[jeffw69 0]

Question is, can I pull off a Rose Gold $35K watch such as this Patek?