tyrantblade 0 Posted July 2, 2011 Maybe its just me, but I believe the purpose of reps to be a good watch, and look as closely to the real deal as possible, hopefully having no major flaws. But if there is no real version of a rep well that kinda kills the purpose as it would then be an obvious fake to all that know such a watch was never made by the brand that is on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narikaa 129 Posted July 2, 2011 Wrong The purpose of a rep is to make money for its producers If they make it and it sells profitably Q.E.D. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tyrantblade 0 Posted July 2, 2011 Wrong The purpose of a rep is to make money for its producers If they make it and it sells profitably Q.E.D. . Well I imagine most want a rep that is based on a real name brand watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narikaa 129 Posted July 2, 2011 Considering the vast tonnage of stuff that isn't that gets produced in China - & here's the surprise for the hobbyist flaw spotter - and gets sold worldwide, most apparently don't . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg_r 84 Posted July 2, 2011 Damn silly thread. Simple answer. No. People buy watches they like the look of. A lot of the so-called 'fantasy' reps are just cheap junk anyhow (although they still sell, so there's obviously a market), but there are a handful of really high-quality watches amongst them - including some real tourbillons. Many of those are good enough watches that nobody but an expert is going to know that it IS a fantasy. How about this? It's a 'fantasy' because it's smaller than the gen (47mm rather than 60mm). Personally, I'd rather own this than the gen, because the gen is a watch I would never wear - it's too damned big. Are you telling me that I shouldn't like it? You buy what you want, the rest of us will buy what we want. Okay? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flottiglia 0 Posted July 2, 2011 Wrong The purpose of a rep is to make money for its producers If they make it and it sells profitably Q.E.D. . Well I imagine most want a rep that is based on a real name brand watch. I would say most tourists who buy reps have no idea whether its accurate to gen or a complete fantasy,nor do they really care.They want a flash,cheap holiday souvenir to show their mates.Their mates probably also have no real idea other than they recognise the name and maybe the general shape of the watch.The uninformed tourist is by far the biggest rep customer i would say.The factories make fantasy watches because they can sell them. The guys on here who are prepared to pay $300 plus for a 95% accurate rep are in the small minority imho.The major factory business is in low end and fantasy reps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg_r 84 Posted July 2, 2011 The guys on here who are prepared to pay $300 plus for a 95% accurate rep are in the small minority imho.The major factory business is in low end and fantasy reps. Bingo! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NFleischer 4,355 Posted July 2, 2011 Most people (including us serious collectors) can't possibly know all the variations among the gen brands. Take Hublot & Panerai for example, they produce so many different models that are similiar in alot of ways. Who's going to realize that they make a blue but not cobalt blue dial?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jameo210369 0 Posted July 2, 2011 I like Bingo and I like what I see so when I see a watch that I like I will buy it, if every rep had to be 100% there would be very few reps around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnG 41 Posted July 2, 2011 the purpose of reps Ultimately, this is a philosophical question. The Purpose of Reps. Indeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tyrantblade 0 Posted July 2, 2011 Damn silly thread. Simple answer. No. People buy watches they like the look of. A lot of the so-called 'fantasy' reps are just cheap junk anyhow (although they still sell, so there's obviously a market), but there are a handful of really high-quality watches amongst them - including some real tourbillons. Many of those are good enough watches that nobody but an expert is going to know that it IS a fantasy. How about this? It's a 'fantasy' because it's smaller than the gen (47mm rather than 60mm). Personally, I'd rather own this than the gen, because the gen is a watch I would never wear - it's too damned big. Are you telling me that I shouldn't like it? You buy what you want, the rest of us will buy what we want. Okay? I wouldn't call it a "fantasy" watch because its based on a real watch right? Like for example it has the same details as the real thing (for the most part)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pihlippe 1,294 Posted July 2, 2011 Damn silly thread. Simple answer. No. People buy watches they like the look of. A lot of the so-called 'fantasy' reps are just cheap junk anyhow (although they still sell, so there's obviously a market), but there are a handful of really high-quality watches amongst them - including some real tourbillons. Many of those are good enough watches that nobody but an expert is going to know that it IS a fantasy. How about this? It's a 'fantasy' because it's smaller than the gen (47mm rather than 60mm). Personally, I'd rather own this than the gen, because the gen is a watch I would never wear - it's too damned big. Are you telling me that I shouldn't like it? You buy what you want, the rest of us will buy what we want. Okay? Where to by? That is on my wishlist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Member X 91 Posted July 3, 2011 I wouldn't call it a "fantasy" watch because its based on a real watch right? Like for example it has the same details as the real thing (for the most part)? But anyone who knows Panerai well would know it can't be real, in the same way that Ska's JLC Tourbillon would be called out by a JLC geek and Silverspeed's SS DJII he's just received would be known to not exist by someone into their Rolexes, so according to your original argument there is no point in them and they shouldn't be produced, despite looking stunning! :D 99.99% of people literally never notice your watch, I think I've had one person comment on mine outside of my group of friends and work colleagues, so just buy what you want! And if you do get some arse trying to call you out, you can just say you commissioned a custom piece and you can say 'enough' when they ask how much it cost... lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingpinup 0 Posted July 3, 2011 Dude, I totally understand your argument at hand. YES i AM a noob on these forums, and have been learning shloads in the past few weeks. But I myself am about to buy reps of a Pam005, a Breitling Navitimer, a Corum golden bridge, and JLC tourbillon reps... all total about $1100 bucks... that's a decent chunk of money for a 25 year old, even if I am doing well for myself, it makes me think of all the things I could potentially spend $1100 bucks on... plane tickets, traveling the world, renting a sweet little place for a month or two... when you're my age and you have no bills, that goes a longgg way... so anyways, i work with reallllllllly rich clientele... and they will know, when they see my JLC tourbillon, that there's no WAY I could afford a 50k price tag, or even reasonably the 15k price tag of a Corum golden bridge (without being a money stupid youngster, because I have gotten quotes at jewelers).... but I will be glad to tell them it's a rep, but it's my fantasy watch and it still cost me a pretty penny... they will still appreciate that it's a young guy that, whether or not he can afford it, has his sights set on it and respects the finer things in life... on the other hand, I'm getting two reasonable watches... a Breitling and a Panerai... something that I actually COULD go out today and buy if I wanted to... if I wanted to forgo a month of traveling in Europe, or a month of living in a sweet rented flat in NY... at my age, I think I'll be penny foolish and pound smart, rather than penny smart and pound foolish... I'll by the reps when I'm nicely rich and successful (i.e. 5 years ) Oh god I can't wait for that day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hasaf 0 Posted July 3, 2011 Maybe its just me, but I believe the purpose of reps to be a good watch, and look as closely to the real deal as possible, hopefully having no major flaws. But if there is no real version of a rep well that kinda kills the purpose as it would then be an obvious fake to all that know such a watch was never made by the brand that is on it. Not at all. It is about having a style that one likes at a price one is willing to pay. If that style is not an exact replica of a existing model from a premium manufacturer, well, so be it. What matters is if the buyer likes it. Of course, if your satisfaction comes form having a watch that is indistinguishable form that of a premium manufacturer, then it will matter to you. As such, you would not get satisfaction form a "fantasy" watch. So, it may be a poor choice for you. In an ideal world all would be available; however, the fantasy watch would include information, for the potential buyer, so that they can be fully informed of how the watch they are considering differs from the original. If monitored, that information would also be useful to manufacturers of genuine watched as it would provide them with a better understanding of the market demand. By way of example, I am no fan of huge watches. I have a small wrist and they look silly on me. I will tend toward 37-39mm, even if it is not entirely accurate; because, it looks better on me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThinkBachs 1 Posted July 3, 2011 ...It's a 'fantasy' because it's smaller than the gen (47mm rather than 60mm). Personally, I'd rather own this than the gen, because the gen is a watch I would never wear - it's too damned big. Are you telling me that I shouldn't like it?... I agree 100%, love this version and much prefer it over the monster size- this coming from someone with big wrists. These gens could be considered "fantasy" because the factory didn't make them that way, but the owners preferred them to be different... Nothing wrong with a fantasy watch if it's something you like- especially if it's done well. Watches have been customized for a long time, and there's a big market for those who prefer something that stands out. Some fantasy watches are a little goofy looking, others are very acceptable because they make sense. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg_r 84 Posted July 3, 2011 Where to by? That is on my wishlist. I got that one from Timesshops. $148 if I recall correctly (I also replaced the strap). Review here: http://www.replica-watches-guide.com/forum...amp;hl=egiziano BTW - while I'm at it. Another very pretty watch that Panerai never made... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narikaa 129 Posted July 3, 2011 or these or these cutesy Omegas All money in the bank to our Chinese friends . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mondeov6 0 Posted July 3, 2011 AAARRRGGHHHH!!!.....MY EYES HURT!! .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ska 11 Posted July 3, 2011 KILL IT!!!!! KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sugaray 0 Posted July 3, 2011 Is that a Breitling hand on the omega?!?!?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThinkBachs 1 Posted July 3, 2011 or these...or these cutesy Omegas...All money in the bank to our Chinese friends . AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGG!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flottiglia 0 Posted July 3, 2011 WTF ,not so much a fantasy as a recurring nightmare.......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
