Theonewatches 148 Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) Overall comparison of Omega Seamaster 300m blue dial GEN, VS, OR, AG and ZF Hello friends, this is Steve. I’m come back. I have done a lot of comparison posts about the most popular Rolex models. We guess you guys may tired of reading it. For a change of pace this time, let's see how well the major factories have done with the Seamaster 300 Blue dial. Without further bullshit, let's get straight to it! Dial Front View In terms of color, VS and ZF are the closest to GEN, AG is not bad, OR is the most obvious, too dark! bezel view All factories’ bezels are well polished, and the shape and smoothness of the sides are about the same! OR's bezel is better polished. As far as the rotating feel is concerned, the VS’s is the most comfortable. Like the GEN, it is relatively loose to rotate. The sound is too loud is the only defect. OR, ZF, AG are all too tight to rotate! Detailed Engraving View The enamel engraving process used by GEN is almost flat and has no ranges visually! There is no problem with what the rep factories do! In terms of fonts, VS and ZF do better, OR is a bit thicker, and the flatness of AG edges is relatively poor! Night Pearl Triangle View The enamel engraving process used by GEN is almost flat and has no ranges visually! There is no problem with what the rep factories do! In terms of fonts, VS and ZF do better, OR is a bit thicker, and the flatness of AG edges is relatively poor! glass view Overall, the crystal surface of ZF is better, and the secondary treatment of glass is done on the side. AG's glass surface is low. Stick view The overall polishing of the scale is not bad, but the GEN’s dot time scale is flat, and the factories’ seem to be too round! The double sticks at 12 o’clock are not very neatly arranged in all factories! Hand Luminous Filled View The luminous light of the hands are made grainy in all factories which are not much difference. Looking at the dot stick from this perspective, the factories’ are indeed too full, and the OR is obviously yellowish in color! Oil Font behind 12:00 Stick View VS is also not bad. The best thing ZF does is the shape and flatness of the font. The downside is that the red SEAMASTER is darker, and the color closest to GEN is the OR factory. Oil Font behind 6:00 Stick View On the whole, the OR factory is slightly worse. The letter A above the calendar window is the most obvious place. The skeleton part in the middle is made into a circle! Hand view The GEN middle axle is solid, but all the factories are skeleton. VS’s and ZF's external leakage cylinders are better in shape, protruding like GEN, and very flat! Panel Wave Notch View The depth of the notch is not bad in all factories. In terms of color, GEN is dark gray. Through physical observation, VS, ZF, AG are very close, and the graininess of the OR pattern is too strong! Date Window View The window shapes of VS, ZF, and AG have secondary processing of beveled edges, while OR does not. And only VS and ZF are correct for date fonts. GEN's font 20 is narrow at the top and wide at the bottom. The upper part of the number is leaning towards the middle, and the lower part is inclined towards the outer edge (the same is true for 10 and 30, and the date after many days is this shape. Case Side View There's nothing wrong with the shape of the case. The shape of the upper part of the letter E of GEN's exhaust valve is an arched curved corner, and the factories’ are a bit square! GEN's crown and exhaust valve are chamfered with circular arcs, which looks like a layered slide. All factories have noticed this detail, but VS and ZF are better at arc angle grinding. Thick Bottom Cover View GEN's rear bottom cover has a very fine chamfered edge, VS and ZF have noticed it and have chamfered it, while OR and AG feel almost no treatment. Engraved view of lugs The VS logo graphic is thinner. In terms of lettering, the factories all use different lettering processes, so there will be some gaps, but the overall shape can still be seen clearly. Strap Detail View Lume View GEN's sticks lume is more green, the factory's is more blue. The color is still different. Movement View All factory movements use Seagull 2824 to imitate the 8800 SMD movement. The structure of the four factories is slightly different. OR, ZF use fewer patches and more similar with GEN The most obvious place for VS is the lack of a screw on the balance wheel. In terms of polishing, OR and ZF are better, and in terms of gem color, OR is closer to GE Data Comparison Illustrate: All watches are in a clamped state, and there may be precision due to the slight deviation of the caliper position. GEN and factories have steel tape protective films. Well, today's post is here, thank you guys for watching. If there are any mistakes, please correct me. If there is anything else I overlooked, you can put it up, and I will try my best to do it. Complementary and comprehensive, welcome to comment and exchange! (Illustrate: Some photos deviate from the real object due to the problem of the light source. The details are mainly written in text. The size of the comparison picture is relatively large. You can download it and enlarge it for comparison.) Website: https://www.theonewatches.ru Telegram: u/Theonewatches_steve WhatsApp: + 86-17081934955 Email: [email protected] Edited May 8 by Theonewatches 14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pielover74 0 Posted September 18, 2022 Thank you for the detailed breakdown! This was phenomenal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tribefan 6,768 Posted September 18, 2022 Thanks Steve for taking the time to educate your clients! Awesome review. Looks like ZF and AG are legit VS contenders. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simonix 8,661 Posted September 18, 2022 This needs to be a sticky! great thread Steve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simonix 8,661 Posted September 18, 2022 I do love my ORF… 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matze71 445 Posted September 18, 2022 Great work! Can this be transferred 1:1 to versions with a different dial color? Or are there then other differences on the table? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_B 2,410 Posted September 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Theonewatches said: Hello everyone, this is Steve and I'm coming again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pbwatch 248 Posted September 18, 2022 My ZF on an ORF bracelet which has been on my wrist everyday for 2 months and running perfect. Definitely the best combo having had all the others in my humble opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tribefan 6,768 Posted September 18, 2022 16 minutes ago, pbwatch said: My ZF on an ORF bracelet which has been on my wrist everyday for 2 months and running perfect. Definitely the best combo having had all the others in my humble opinion. Yeah, but who wound up with the ORF on the ZF bracelet is the real question....... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philiusmaximus 5,065 Posted September 18, 2022 Is this the end of the VSF hysteria. It's the worst version in almost every crucial way. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pbwatch 248 Posted September 18, 2022 Yeah, but who wound up with the ORF on the ZF bracelet is the real question.......Lol. No one as I have the ZF strap here still wrapped up and bought the ORF bracelet separately. :-) Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aramis2288 6,322 Posted September 18, 2022 Amazing post! I wonder how the white dial versions compare against each other. I have the VSF version and my biggest issue with it are the yellowish hour markers. This color difference is quite visible on a snow-white dial. I wonder whether the ZF factory made a better rep... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pbwatch 248 Posted September 19, 2022 Amazing post! I wonder how the white dial versions compare against each other. I have the VSF version and my biggest issue with it are the yellowish hour markers. This color difference is quite visible on a snow-white dial. I wonder whether the ZF factory made a better rep...Yes ZF did make a better job of the white dial. Some guys already have it and commented on the better red script and white markers. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darkstar5 689 Posted November 10, 2022 For anyone hoping to make a franken with the best parts from each: ORF bracelet fits on the ZF. VSF bezel however does not (wanted the better scallops). I also prefer the hands on the VSF so I'll try swapping onto the ZF movement this weekend. The ZF hand lume is just a bit dull and doesn't match the rest of the lume. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildchild696 1 Posted December 1, 2022 Has anyone had a chance to compare the VSF and ZF versions of the black face version? I'm particularly interested in clarifying comments that I have read about the colour of the "seamaster" logo. Also are both movements unidirectional/noisy still? Bracelet unimportant, will go for the rubber strap. Any thoughts greatly appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildchild696 1 Posted December 1, 2022 Forgot to say, amazing review btw, thanks so much for taking the time and effort Steve! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ilikewaches 29 Posted December 22, 2022 IMO VSF is the way to go. ORF removes one of the reversing wheels and puts a hole and click spring in the other reversing wheel in order to fit their deco plate. This means it only winds in one direction and is more prone to failure. It also means that swapping in a new movement is very difficult because the deco plates will not fit over a movement without this modification. I'd rather have the VSF deco which allows for a direct swap of the movement while retaining the deco plates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hazey82 0 Posted December 26, 2022 (edited) Hi All, Anyone know if the grey dial is as good as this blue and even the black? When i compare the hands to the Gen they are pretty damm good, My concern is from what I have seen of the blue hands on some images they can look a bit washed out and colour is not completly even or missing in edges/tips. This one of the VSF from Geek Time looks ok.. This one from Trusty not so much.. https://trustytimewatch88.io/images/OMEGA7/OMG0691_08.jpg Edited December 26, 2022 by Hazey82 . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chainen 38 Posted January 22, 2023 Thanks Steve. I really appreciate the detailed break down. As a new member, I am still learning what details to look for when selecting a factory. I sort of lucked into the VS Submariner as my first purchase, but this type of information will be really helpful for my next purchase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunny 0 Posted August 5, 2023 Such a comprehensive and detailed breakdown. Thank you for your work! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy66 81 Posted August 28, 2023 I'm amazed at the detailed comparisons. It's one thing to be told or to read the differences but to have visual side by side comparisons makes such a difference. Thank you for putting the time in to do this. Andy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsbigmal 0 Posted November 16, 2023 Just taken delivery of Black OR factory and wonder before I mess it up can I take a link out? Just don't want to attempt if the screws on the bracelet are fixed just for show. Many Thanks Malcolm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wires 4,781 Posted November 16, 2023 57 minutes ago, itsbigmal said: Just taken delivery of Black OR factory and wonder before I mess it up can I take a link out? Just don't want to attempt if the screws on the bracelet are fixed just for show. Many Thanks Malcolm Unscrew the link on both sides then poke out the pin if it doesn’t fall out, do the same with another link to make the bracelet shorter then put back together try to use a good size/quality screwdriver it’s really easy on this type of bracelet 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsbigmal 0 Posted November 17, 2023 All Done, thanks for the tips. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giando 0 Posted January 1 Hi orf have silent rotor? Or that have same as all replica a noisy rotor? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
