MikeMcNair 0 Posted August 3, 2011 It appears to be a BP, and it's wonderful, BUT, caseback will not come off! I have tried: 2x caseback removal tools (the 3 footed SS ones) 1x HORB rubber ball 3x Duct tape balls 1x (and this sounds bad but usually works amazingly well) SUPER GLUING a blade flat to caseback and rotating. Normally this takes off the most stubborn of casebacks if it gets that far, which is super rare, and when cleaned with acetone there is no sign of this, and yes, I've done this on gens too ) Google led me to a few threads on homageforum that say the same about the caseback here, but I see no solution !!! So, I am all ears guys cause I am fucking stumped and need this caseback off! (btw, resting in hot water is a NON option due to the reasons this watch is in for service in the first place) Cheers all for your help! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waipio Jeff 0 Posted August 3, 2011 Someone give Mike some tips here. I want my watch back!!! LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
houndoggie 58 Posted August 3, 2011 Hot glue with lots of glue a decent size piece of scrap wood on the case back. Something about the size of wooden spoon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeMcNair 0 Posted August 3, 2011 Hot glue with lots of glue a decent size piece of scrap wood on the case back. Something about the size of wooden spoon. I'll try it, but this is the same principle as the superglue and steel blade, and that did absolutely nothing!!! I am tempted to think it does not screw off at all, but that does not make sense when looking at the watch, I'll post a pic in a bit. I had 2 watches, both gen rolex's, that had the same issue, and my superglue trick worked. On this IWC, it will not fucking budge!!!!! I am tempted to put it in heat or something!!! Any other thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
houndoggie 58 Posted August 3, 2011 Hot glue with lots of glue a decent size piece of scrap wood on the case back. Something about the size of wooden spoon. I'll try it, but this is the same principle as the superglue and steel blade, and that did absolutely nothing!!! I am tempted to think it does not screw off at all, but that does not make sense when looking at the watch, I'll post a pic in a bit. I had 2 watches, both gen rolex's, that had the same issue, and my superglue trick worked. On this IWC, it will not fucking budge!!!!! I am tempted to put it in heat or something!!! Any other thoughts? Same principle but the different materials may make the difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeMcNair 0 Posted August 3, 2011 Someone give Mike some tips here. I want my watch back!!! LOL Well, the other two are done bro, but this one may not even be fixed by a new crown. I can't tell if the tube is stripped cause I can't get the god dam back off!!! I have never seen anything this tight on a watch! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DW-Watches 0 Posted August 3, 2011 I've had a few occasions where putting downward force/pressure on a screw-on case back made it impossible to unscrew. It was a pain to remove them, since the tools kept slipping, but once I got it going they came off. Maybe try the glue trick again, but pull up or put no pressure when unscrewing? On cars (never tried on a watch) sometimes I have to tighten a bolt a hair just to break it loose before unscrewing too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luthier 1 Posted August 3, 2011 Mike, hot soldering iron on caseback for about 30 seconds. It will work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turnipz 0 Posted August 3, 2011 Epoxy instead of superglue perhaps? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingle 57 Posted August 3, 2011 Mike, hot soldering iron on caseback for about 30 seconds. It will work. This along with the glue/blade will work..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bubbaa 0 Posted August 3, 2011 Tinfoil & butane/torch on case back. I bet that will work! But never tried on watch.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prestigewatchco 2 Posted August 3, 2011 Have you tried clipping it off? Some reps have all the markings and cut outs but are pushed on. If the threads are crossed you will never get it off without getting a case back knife under the edge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waipio Jeff 0 Posted August 3, 2011 You guys scare me with some of those ideas. Got a text from Mike. He got it off and found a whole new world of issues under it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wat44 0 Posted August 3, 2011 yeah - bits of blade, glue.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DW-Watches 0 Posted August 3, 2011 You guys scare me with some of those ideas. Got a text from Mike. He got it off and found a whole new world of issues under it! Well, how did he get it off? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeMcNair 0 Posted August 3, 2011 super glue, an 18" file, and patience. it finally came off. robert, i did test to see if it was a pop off, but it was clearly a screw off. i got it, after 24 hrs of racking my brain, but with the file, the ridges increase the surface area of the glue adhesion, therefore giving me more "traction" on turning the back. i am amazed at how tight it was, but i no know why: the o-ring is ~ 6-8mm too big, so it was really really wedged in there. heat didnt even work (cause i forgot to mention i tried that too) and what i found inside, oh man............. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pihlippe 1,294 Posted August 3, 2011 and what i found inside, oh man............. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
offshore 0 Posted August 3, 2011 super glue, an 18" file, and patience. it finally came off. robert, i did test to see if it was a pop off, but it was clearly a screw off. i got it, after 24 hrs of racking my brain, but with the file, the ridges increase the surface area of the glue adhesion, therefore giving me more "traction" on turning the back. i am amazed at how tight it was, but i no know why: the o-ring is ~ 6-8mm too big, so it was really really wedged in there. heat didnt even work (cause i forgot to mention i tried that too) and what i found inside, oh man............. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeNnY 29 Posted August 3, 2011 and what i found inside, oh man............. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waipio Jeff 0 Posted August 3, 2011 Come on Mike, post up some shots of my BPs guts! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takken 0 Posted August 3, 2011 steel + heating will make this problem go away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeMcNair 0 Posted August 3, 2011 Come on Mike, post up some shots of my BPs guts! Here is the file glued to the caseback . Was really hard to turn even with 9" of leverage on both sides!!! Here is the FIRST missing movement holding tab and screw.... Here is the second!!! Wtf! Here is the o ring that's just way to big, and I mean HUGE for this caseback. This was likely bound up in the threads making it so tight to get the back off, again, whisky tango foxtrot!!! More to come today as I find out how mangled this crown and tube really are ggggrrrr! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites