P4GTR 0 Posted March 21, 2012 Who was it from? Perhaps the dealer will be willing to ship a new one out upon receipt of return tracking# or something, that way you aren't waiting very long. Perhaps the dealer will sell you a replacement at a discount, and you just keep the broken one and sell it for parts. Maybe take it to a watch smith and let them have a look. It may cost you a few dollars to fix, but you'd have a brand new working watch in a day or two. These are all options I would at least try (worst they can say is no). Returning the watch to CN has always been the last possible solution for me. I've always been able to wind my PAM with the crown guard down. Is this not right? Can it harm the watch? Bad idea, better to open the CG lever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balad1 0 Posted March 21, 2012 Sorry for your misfortune but you can turn this into an opportunity to buy another rep to ease the pain... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
osteocruncher 0 Posted March 21, 2012 Try to open the crownguard and wind it that way. I received a few watches for repair perfectly working from first time buyers. The watch is from torobravo. I have tried that but it makes a grating sound. Seeing as he is replying on this topic i think i will not be opening the back up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balad1 0 Posted March 21, 2012 No worries mate, shit happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frazzle 5 Posted March 21, 2012 Buddy at least you've just one another 111 from HWG. Someone's looking down on you for sure! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
osteocruncher 0 Posted March 21, 2012 Buddy at least you've just one another 111 from HWG. Someone's looking down on you for sure! Thanks Frazzle, It turns out, Belgium where i live is a nightmare for customs. So might not be able to get the HWG watch easily. Still trying to find a suitable delivery route. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frazzle 5 Posted March 21, 2012 On that note are you supposed to open the crown guard to change time and wind? I always do but don't want to wear out the crown guard lever if this is not right. Thanks Noob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gazillionaire 0 Posted March 21, 2012 On that note are you supposed to open the crown guard to change time and wind? I always do but don't want to wear out the crown guard lever if this is not right. Thanks Noob What's a crown guard, what's winding a crown mean for that matter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingle 57 Posted March 21, 2012 Crown wobbly?.....sounds like the keyless screw is not all the way in. Duct tape ball, press on back and rotate counterclockwise. Take a pic and let us have a look Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
osteocruncher 0 Posted March 21, 2012 Crown wobbly?.....sounds like the keyless screw is not all the way in. Duct tape ball, press on back and rotate counterclockwise. Take a pic and let us have a look dingleberry, ok, will now wind but movement is not ticking. seemed 1st cog was not seated correctly. next step? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingle 57 Posted March 21, 2012 Snap the pic, I want see the keyless screw. Get a macro pic if you can. are you able to wind it at all? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingle 57 Posted March 21, 2012 here is a pic of the screw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
osteocruncher 0 Posted March 21, 2012 Snap the pic, I want see the keyless screw. Get a macro pic if you can. are you able to wind it at all? I am able to wind it but on closer inspection, it looks like the coiled spring around the movement is warped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingle 57 Posted March 21, 2012 Snap the pic, I want see the keyless screw. Get a macro pic if you can. are you able to wind it at all? I am able to wind it but on closer inspection, it looks like the coiled spring around the movement is warped. Please take a pic. If this is the case, it will be best to send back to Toro. He is trusted for a reason and will take care of you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
osteocruncher 0 Posted March 21, 2012 Arrow is pointing to part of coiled spring that is distorted. pm'ed toro but no reply yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingle 57 Posted March 21, 2012 can you screw the keyless screw clockwise? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
onionbag 1 Posted March 21, 2012 Sorry to see you're having a problem osteocruncher. My 111 from Toro had a loose stem and would not disengage from the handset position, he offered to take it back for repair but I just took it to a local watchsmith. 20 mins and £5 later all was fine! Toro will take care of you if it's gubbed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Member X 91 Posted March 21, 2012 If you're in Belgium and customs is an issue, Monsieur Wiz is not far from you... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
osteocruncher 0 Posted March 21, 2012 If you're in Belgium and customs is an issue, Monsieur Wiz is not far from you... Thanks for the heads up mate, Wiz might just be the quicker option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andjsea 0 Posted March 21, 2012 For shame! You said it has a display case back? Damaged hair spring should not have been overlooked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
osteocruncher 0 Posted March 22, 2012 Took the caseback off to get a better angle of the hairspring movement and as it shows it is warped. Still no reply from toro!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Member X 91 Posted March 22, 2012 Yikes! Did it just pop out when you opened the case?? Give Toro a bit of time to reply - if he's in china at the moment it's currently 4.30am so I imagine he's in bed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
osteocruncher 0 Posted March 22, 2012 Yikes! Did it just pop out when you opened the case?? Yep. This is how it was once I took the case back off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingle 57 Posted March 22, 2012 Yikes! Did it just pop out when you opened the case?? Yep. This is how it was once I took the case back off. did you contact him via PM or email?..... Email is best. Let me know if I need to intervene Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
osteocruncher 0 Posted March 22, 2012 Yikes! Did it just pop out when you opened the case?? Yep. This is how it was once I took the case back off. did you contact him via PM or email?..... Email is best. Let me know if I need to intervene PM and email. I also paid extra for a brown leather strap for the Pam that was not in the package. 😞 God I sound like a real whinger!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
