sconehead 5 Posted December 22, 2009 Just read an RWI sales post and learned something I didn't know. The sale was reinstated after the seller changed his PP payment from being paid as PP 'gift' terms to a normal 'goods' transaction. Apparently you aren't covered if the transaction is fraudulant with this method of payment. I've bought loads of stuff like this and never realised, I just thought it was a way the seller got you to pay the charges. From now on I won't use this method, if the seller want's no charges, insist that he adds 3-4% or whatever it is and purchase as 'goods' to be on the safe side... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg_r 81 Posted December 22, 2009 yup. I'll occasionally send a payment as 'gift' if it's a friend and someone I trust completely, but would never do so otherwise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingle 57 Posted December 22, 2009 did not know this. I don't have a clue how I've been sending money......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sconehead 5 Posted December 22, 2009 did not know this. I don't have a clue how I've been sending money......... That Georgia pigeon post is real slick... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
onzenuub 307 Posted December 22, 2009 You all didn't knew, I knew. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyB 0 Posted December 22, 2009 Just read an RWI sales post and learned something I didn't know. The sale was reinstated after the seller changed his PP payment from being paid as PP 'gift' terms to a normal 'goods' transaction. Apparently you aren't covered if the transaction is fraudulant with this method of payment. I've bought loads of stuff like this and never realised, I just thought it was a way the seller got you to pay the charges. From now on I won't use this method, if the seller want's no charges, insist that he adds 3-4% or whatever it is and purchase as 'goods' to be on the safe side... yup. I'll occasionally send a payment as 'gift' if it's a friend and someone I trust completely, but would never do so otherwise. So what is it? Send payment as 'gift' or 'goods'?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg_r 81 Posted December 22, 2009 send payment as goods if you want to be safe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AllergyDoc 40 Posted December 22, 2009 When you click on the "Send Money" tab at the top, you have the choice of making a payment on the "Purchase" tab or "Personal" tab. Everything paid on the "Personal" tab is fee-free. (Except for CC transactions.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mad dawg 0 Posted December 23, 2009 Remember the converse is true if you are selling (unless you trust the buyer). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10:10 Watch Repair 1 Posted December 23, 2009 must be why so many auctions state "no gift" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AllergyDoc 40 Posted December 23, 2009 "Get off my lawn!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sconehead 5 Posted December 30, 2009 bump for Joey... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AustinTech 0 Posted December 30, 2009 Remember, if you are selling counterfit goods, you really don't have any recourse anyway. You can't say, "I never recieved my fake Patek." And I thought the only recourse you have with PP is if you are buying an E-bay item? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trailboss99 994 Posted December 31, 2009 Nope, PP protection works on most sales. Not on gift or rent however. You can allways call it watch parts or anything you like 'cause the seller is hardly going to spill the beans and admit he sold a rep is he? He would have his own account frozen. Asking folk to pay via gift is also defrauding PP and in therey they could go you for it. In effect you are costing them money by lieing to them. It's now in the rules at RWI that asking for gift PP is not permited. This came as a suprise to me as well as a lot of other people but it is one of those rare PP rules that actualy makes sense. They are making nothing out of the tranzaction so why should they cover the sale? If you guys feel it's a good idea I'll add it in here. What you do between friends is your concern but you would not be allowed to insisist on it. Of cause you would be entitled to state a PP fee in your sale. It's allways good to offer alt ways to pay such as WU or moneybookers as well. Col. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnG 41 Posted December 31, 2009 Remember, if you are selling counterfit goods, you really don't have any recourse anyway. You can't say, "I never recieved my fake Patek." And I thought the only recourse you have with PP is if you are buying an E-bay item? No, you ALWAYS have recourse if it is a normal transaction. EVEN with fake watches - PP dispute process doesn't require you to specify brand name, much less if the item is counterfeit or not. PP only looks to the seller to provide proof of delivery - if they can, you are out of luck, unless the item is not as described. I don't know who started this silliness about you can't file a dispute for reps, it is absolute nonsense. Hell, all you have to do is look at all the PP dispute threads at RG, where everyone shits on the noob buyer for jumping the gun. Ditto the PP disputes against rep dealers - just ask Robert or any other dealer whether "you can't file a PP dispute for reps". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
