nunu78 1,741 Posted September 15, 2012 It would sort of defeat the object of the board though, which is to stop people getting scammed and instead point them toward the TDs. +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bing ging 0 Posted September 15, 2012 Hi all i did not realise that i would stir up such a hornets nest against me, i can only say sorry. There was lot of communication between us, he said he would refund the difference (see initial post), i waited he never did. So i ignored that and thought ok let me just get the watches then i will broach my refund of the difference. I have about 60 watches so immediately i knew that the watches he had sent did not work properly re their stopwatches. Then i found i could pull the pushers straight out of the Brietling not good on a watch that is supposed to be waterproof. The watch is a rep and i don't intend to go diving with it obviously, but the buttons come out ? He had spent several days 'testing' the watches, what was he testing ? I emailed him and told him, he never denied the faults with the watches but said send them back for a refund. After all of the 'trouble' with him i though, 'i could end up losing my money and not even have two very poor watches to show for it'. So we agreed that he would refund half of my money then i would send the watches back. At least if the worse came to the worse i would have got some of my money back. He said he would refund me on a certain date. That date came and went, i waited a few days contacted him, nothing. Yes i did get his site from this fourum but i seem to be in the small minority that has had a rough deal. Yes you guys will slaughter me which is your peroagtive but farnkly i dont like losing $191 USD which was paid in good faith only to be seemingly messed around. You may all have had a good experience with Michelle but for some reason i have had a bad one. I was patient with him and gave him the benifit of the doubt at each turn. I am ready for you guys to tear me to shreds bring it on lol xxx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nisv 0 Posted September 15, 2012 Have you contacted a member of the staff regarding your purchase? Even though this purchase has gone south you still should have put in the Silix feedback section, http://www.rwg.bz/board/index.php?showforum=175 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PAB 0 Posted September 15, 2012 It would sort of defeat the object of the board though, which is to stop people getting scammed and instead point them toward the TDs. Surely a couple of weeks patient reading time would sort out IQ levels & help stop the feet 1st mentality? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichardMiami 4 Posted September 15, 2012 1. Our instructions to noobs clearly state that if you have a dispute with a TD, you should go to a Mod for help. You did not do this. 2. Our instructions to noobs clearly state that we NEVER put any information into the PayPal purchase. You ignored this. 3. Our instructions to noobs clearly state that we NEVER initiate PayPal disputes. You did anyway. Why did you join this site? You have ignored and disrespected our advice, our rules, and our hard work. This is NOT acceptable behavior. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PAB 0 Posted September 15, 2012 (edited) Well said Richard! Wont be happy with this guy if I cant use Paypal the next time I use Sillix! Edited September 15, 2012 by PAB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futbol57102at 0 Posted September 15, 2012 Hi all i did not realise that i would stir up such a hornets nest against me, i can only say sorry. There was lot of communication between us, he said he would refund the difference (see initial post), i waited he never did. So i ignored that and thought ok let me just get the watches then i will broach my refund of the difference. I have about 60 watches so immediately i knew that the watches he had sent did not work properly re their stopwatches. Then i found i could pull the pushers straight out of the Brietling not good on a watch that is supposed to be waterproof. The watch is a rep and i don't intend to go diving with it obviously, but the buttons come out ? He had spent several days 'testing' the watches, what was he testing ? I emailed him and told him, he never denied the faults with the watches but said send them back for a refund. After all of the 'trouble' with him i though, 'i could end up losing my money and not even have two very poor watches to show for it'. So we agreed that he would refund half of my money then i would send the watches back. At least if the worse came to the worse i would have got some of my money back. He said he would refund me on a certain date. That date came and went, i waited a few days contacted him, nothing. Yes i did get his site from this fourum but i seem to be in the small minority that has had a rough deal. Yes you guys will slaughter me which is your peroagtive but farnkly i dont like losing $191 USD which was paid in good faith only to be seemingly messed around. You may all have had a good experience with Michelle but for some reason i have had a bad one. I was patient with him and gave him the benifit of the doubt at each turn. I am ready for you guys to tear me to shreds bring it on lol xxx You said you paid $191 for 2 watches. IDK what you're expecting at less than $100 each, but these watches typically not waterproofed. It's not something where the dealer is trying to scam anyone. I think it's safe to say that dealers are getting spec sheets from the factories stating that the watch is waterproof, or being told this verbally. It's a chronograph with pushers..If you read the forums you'd know that it's difficult to waterproof these, or any rep chronographs. Reps that cost double yours still may not be safe to take in the water... You need to approach the situation more logically and with more patience. Michelle shipped you a watch-why on Earth would you be worried they would take your money and run on the return process? If they wanted to operate like that, you would've paid and they would've shipped nothing in the first place! This is not a knock on the dealers who sell "cheapies," but OP needs to lower their expectations when ordering them, or pay up to mod them and or buy an ETA super-rep outright...Sure, you had a problem in what you received, but you still decided to initiate a paypal dispute, despite Michele being willing to handle your return. Why would you ask (or expect) half of your money back without them even receiving your damaged watch back?! Sounds like you're trying to pull a quick one on them, if anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deef 0 Posted September 15, 2012 Waiting for the hamster ..... Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futbol57102at 0 Posted September 15, 2012 OP: If you sold someone an item and they said they wanted to return the item but wanted some of the $ refunded before they sent it back, what would you say?! "Eff you," right?! I mean, I don't understand how you don't see how convoluted your approach is here. Obviously Michelle misunderstood this entire refund before shipping back thing. Keep in mind most of these dealers are from China and speak very little English...Any logical person would not agree to such a refund before a return. And I put my confidence in Michelle's logic over yours.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
onionbag 1 Posted September 15, 2012 You fuckin' better not have opened a Paypal dispute mate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've just placed an order with them.........and I'm just going out, so I don't have any more time to spend shouting at you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hazz 0 Posted September 15, 2012 You fuckin' better not have opened a Paypal dispute mate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've just placed an order with them. Can a paypal dispute be retracted, I am sure it can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichardMiami 4 Posted September 15, 2012 Long story short i have just contacted paypal, Maybe he screwed it up and it didn't register as a dispute Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cyril_Clunge 0 Posted September 15, 2012 Never a grown up around when you need one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichardMiami 4 Posted September 15, 2012 You fuckin' better not have opened a Paypal dispute mate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've just placed an order with them.........and I'm just going out, so I don't have any more time to spend shouting at you. Just so you understand Bing Ging..... I will use very simple words - when you open a Paypal dispute, it has the possibility of FREEZING their account, which means that moneys sent to them are locked.. which means that members of this forum, who have sent them money.. will not get their watches or their money back. It also means that you have attacked a Trusted Dealer by locking all of the funds which they had in the Paypal account. Those are the reasons why we instruct, CLEARLY, that you should NEVER do this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1littlegreen 1 Posted September 15, 2012 IIRC some asshat did something similar to Mary not too long ago. Took some time to resolve, but fortunately it worked out. If I had a profile on RWI, I'd be letting them know what to look for with OP and his/her PP practices. I'm sure they don't want PP issues when they go to order from Michelle. Just my half-a-cent Kev Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devedander 0 Posted September 15, 2012 for under $100 any chrono is either quartz or date function on subdials Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1littlegreen 1 Posted September 15, 2012 You fuckin' better not have opened a Paypal dispute mate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've just placed an order with them. Can a paypal dispute be retracted, I am sure it can. I hope so too Hazz. Just threating a dispute makes me want to feed him a shit sandwitch. Kev Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cyril_Clunge 0 Posted September 15, 2012 You fuckin' better not have opened a Paypal dispute mate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've just placed an order with them.........and I'm just going out, so I don't have any more time to spend shouting at you. I think we may be looking at a two shed situation here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scorpion 0 Posted September 15, 2012 WTF - is this for real? Please tell me its a wind up, especially the pay pal dispute bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frankt8242 1 Posted September 15, 2012 Maybe we need to institute an IQ test as a membership requirement......This IDIOT might have been screened out if we had one!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PAB 0 Posted September 15, 2012 WTF - is this for real? Please tell me its a wind up, especially the pay pal dispute bit. No wind up, this guy might have fucked it for all of us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luthier 1 Posted September 15, 2012 @Frank : +1BILLION. P.S. Where's Greg, when we need him??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichardMiami 4 Posted September 15, 2012 Maybe we need to institute an IQ test as a membership requirement......This IDIOT might have been screened out if we had one!! wouldn't have worked in this case.. no IQ test I know of has negative numbers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vexorg 0 Posted September 15, 2012 WTF - is this for real? Please tell me its a wind up, especially the pay pal dispute bit. No wind up, this guy might have fucked it for all of us He better not fucked this up for the rest of us. i was thinking of getting some watches from michelle but now that her paypal might not work i'll have to hold off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cyril_Clunge 0 Posted September 15, 2012 I think a compulsory IQ test would decimate membership numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
