yawn 122 Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) As title stated, I did some cross comparisons among 2 reps and gen VCO and findings are summarise below: ETA movement VCO from toro: Asian ETA movement from Marry: Gen: Though vco from toro seems make less mistake but I just can't stand for the wrong logo. And this crazy thought starts to circulating in my mind that I should buy both watches and attach the logo from mary to dail from toro, so the only apparent tell (except the texture of dial) will be the SWISS MADE. I should salvage some money back by selling the the wrong logo on mary's vco. The bracelet might need a rebrush and repolish to make it looks more like gen, i ll see what my local watchsmith can do about it. Edit: now i have both versions on my hand and i have to say, if you want to just buy one and don't care about the flasws, GET THE Asian ETA movement one, it has an overall better finish and a much much better bracelet. I will send both watches to Goin to put them together to form a super rep, stay tune for the end result pics in about 1-2 months time. Edit 2: here is the dial of the ETA version: as we can see, the dial has a cream colour, which is more gen like, the Asian movement has a bleach white dial colour, but the cross on ETA model is just horrible. now, this is the crown of two watches, the left one is the asian version, which the cross is obvious off, the right one is from ETA version, which has a much better finish. So the idea to create a super VCO is to put the cross on Asian version on the dial and case of ETA version (which has double AR as I remembered, I might be wrong), use the Asian movement and hand (since the hand has better finish), relume the dial and do a bit end link treatment (the edge is not level with case). I will keep updating this post when the project is completed. Edited March 7, 2013 by yawn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dinicol 0 Posted January 18, 2013 Like the review, -same price point for both??? and how do they feel on?? weight ok? -Dinicol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
replicastuff 0 Posted January 18, 2013 I feel your pain... would it be.worth waiting until they make improvements. i can see the small things could drive u nuts... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yawn 122 Posted January 18, 2013 Like the review, -same price point for both??? and how do they feel on?? weight ok? -Dinicol the eta movement costs around $350ish the asian clone costs around $250ish i ordered the latter and currently waiting for qc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dinicol 0 Posted January 23, 2013 Yes, nice one, I am looking at the same watch from Joshua (around $310), -he says it's the best copy he has. -Have you compared his version? -Dinicol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yawn 122 Posted January 24, 2013 Yes, nice one, I am looking at the same watch from Joshua (around $310), -he says it's the best copy he has. -Have you compared his version? -Dinicol i think there are only 2 versions out there. and i have made my decision, i m gotta to buy both and put them together to make a super VCO (not to mention Mary's version has a slightly off 12 clock marker, and she confirmed it is a common issue with this version) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dinicol 0 Posted February 5, 2013 You'll have a super watch!!!! How big is watch????? And does it 'feel' the weight you would expect or is it 'tinny'???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yawn 122 Posted February 8, 2013 You'll have a super watch!!!! How big is watch????? And does it 'feel' the weight you would expect or is it 'tinny'???? its 42mm so quite similar compare to Rolex sub and by far it's the most comfortable bracet watch to wear I had so far. I just received my era version and will send both watch for modding(put them together) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buyingmytime 0 Posted February 8, 2013 I own the Overseas "Deep Stream" rep and I love it. Only problem with some of these is the piece that connects the watch head to the bracelet (sorry don't know the proper name) isn't always a perfect fit into the bezel and makes it scream rep. I didn't notice this on my QC pics, but when I got it I took the whole thing apart and hand filed the "knub" to make it fit cleaner. The QC pics you have from Toro look pretty good IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Member X 91 Posted February 9, 2013 You'll have a super watch!!!! How big is watch????? And does it 'feel' the weight you would expect or is it 'tinny'???? All the reps available from the Trusted Dealers are made from Stainless Steel or Titanium - they will have a pretty accurate weight and not feel cheap or light unless the gen construction is also light. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yawn 122 Posted March 7, 2013 now updated with progress Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cala1981 0 Posted April 21, 2013 (edited) this is the only version that seems to have cross larger, datewheel correct and accent over geneve. Am I missing something? And does any dealer have this with white dial? http://silix-prime.so/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=115_165&products_id=1269 Edited April 21, 2013 by cala1981 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulro 2 Posted April 21, 2013 Cala I think your'e correct. This seems accurate. It is 38mm though. All the 42mm are way off. I like this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cala1981 0 Posted April 21, 2013 I was hoping the 38mm was a typo. Dial looks very accurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulro 2 Posted April 27, 2013 What about Andrew at trusty time site page 11? Looks ok but in all of the pictures I look at the 12 and the 1 next to the 2 looks wrong. Is that my eyes? What does anyone else think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wild05kid05 0 Posted May 8, 2013 Let me make this clear: Puretime/Sillix : wrong hands, short second hand, wrong font, wrong "geneve" with no accent, correct swiss made placement, trapezoidial date window slightly big, correct logo Cartel ones from other TDs: correct hands, correct font, correct "geneve" with accent, wrong swiss placement, little to no trapezoidial date window, wrong logo (small) I'd just pick the cartel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yawn 122 Posted May 8, 2013 Let me make this clear:Puretime/Sillix : wrong hands, short second hand, wrong font, wrong "geneve" with no accent, correct swiss made placement, trapezoidial date window slightly big, correct logo Cartel ones from other TDs: correct hands, correct font, correct "geneve" with accent, wrong swiss placement, little to no trapezoidial date window, wrong logo (small) I'd just pick the cartel. Believe me, the correct logo is more important; little to no people will notice the other flaws. Though cartel comes with 'Swiss' movement, I m not exactly how reliable is it compare to Asian clone eta. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wild05kid05 0 Posted May 8, 2013 (edited) Wrong hand and especially shorter second turn me off completely ... The cartel is the one you got from Mary. Edit: Shorter second hand is in the Puretime black dial version Edited May 8, 2013 by wild05kid05 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yawn 122 Posted October 5, 2013 After putting two watch together with best part, I made a mistake glue the logo too low, then I have to dissolve it and the process destroy the SWISS ETA version's dial. So I have to use the cartel dial. But I used the ETA version inner bezel ring, hands and crown, which are more accurate. I guess this is the best version I can do with the materials on hand. The date wheel windows is still wrong tho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrott 0 Posted October 5, 2013 Looks amazing! Good job! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirDennis 0 Posted April 6, 2017 where can i get replacement bracelet for this mine has broken clasp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdog 1 Posted April 6, 2017 where can i get replacement bracelet for this mine has broken clasp Maybe reach out to a TD or put up a WTB rather than nerco-bumping old irrelevant post, unless your just trying the reach the magical 5 hmmmm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites