Expectations of a replica watch

[Boboyolo 0]

I always expected a bit more from a rep tbh good to keep those infos in mind before buying a rep 

[banditeleven2 0]

Much appreciated 

[NickTug 1]

On 24/03/2010 at 14:29, KBH said:

 

Read this and found it useful. Thank you 

Edited July 29, 2021 by NickTug

[BoobBandit 1,311]

9 minutes ago, NickTug said:

Read this and found it useful. Thank you 

If you want to get on people’s  bad side around here, keep up the long ass quotes.  

[NickTug 1]

1 minute ago, BoobBandit said:

If you want to get on people’s  bad side around here, keep up the long ass quotes.  

What do you mean? 

 

I saw someone took time to write a post and im saying thank you! Especially it was written a long time ago. 

 

Not sure what your problem is mate? You having a bad day? 

[BoobBandit 1,311]

Oh relax buddy, really, don’t start. What I’m referring to, is when you reply in a thread. It’s helpful if you edit out the whole majority of text. For all of us, scrolling thru post after post of repeated text arouses the ire of many around here. So pretty please, with sugar on top, keep in mind 

[topher91 0]

Thank you for this.  Even my super reps have flaws so getting people to understand the difference is important 

[g-yice 0]

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[Gnsfisher 1]

Great stuff! Thanks for posting. 
 

[SimonBlades 0]

Super eye opening. I was way off on the truth about replica watches. I hope I will be able to get advice on the best makers.

[leonduchateau 7]

Until now (bought reps for +\- 10 years) my rep purchases have almost always exceeded expectations. However, sometimes the noise of the “rotor” of reps seems to be rather loud (a person next to you could hear the rotor noise when flicking your wrist). I wonder if that is considered to be normal? Never had this with my gen watches.

[GenTLe 1,497]

7 hours ago, leonduchateau said:

Until now (bought reps for +\- 10 years) my rep purchases have almost always exceeded expectations. However, sometimes the noise of the “rotor” of reps seems to be rather loud (a person next to you could hear the rotor noise when flicking your wrist). I wonder if that is considered to be normal? Never had this with my gen watches.

It is normal because it has not been properly oiled (the entire movement I mean, apart the main gear train). So, the solution for that is to put a microscopic amount of Moebius HP1300 oil in the ball bearing of the rotor.

You'll still have a semi-dry movement, but at least it will not be noisy.

[leonduchateau 7]

4 hours ago, GenTLe said:

It is normal because it has not been properly oiled (the entire movement I mean, apart the main gear train). So, the solution for that is to put a microscopic amount of Moebius HP1300 oil in the ball bearing of the rotor.

You'll still have a semi-dry movement, but at least it will not be noisy.

Thanks, super helpful! However I wonder why they don’t put a bit of oil upon assembling the watch. Seems like a hassle to open the watch and do it myself (not sure if I could). 

[GenTLe 1,497]

2 hours ago, leonduchateau said:

Thanks, super helpful! However I wonder why they don’t put a bit of oil upon assembling the watch. Seems like a hassle to open the watch and do it myself (not sure if I could). 

They get the movements in batches from movement makers, they don't have oils in the final watch assembly line.

It's the movement maker that should do that, and they just don't care doing it. Plus the oils they use aren't at all in pair with the expensive synthetic oils and greased used now.

For instance, this is an old natural (from animals) oil: 5£/2ml

https://www.cousinsuk.com/product/moebius-8000-watch-oil?code=O1053#

This is a new equivalent but synth: 17.55£/2ml

https://www.cousinsuk.com/product/moebius-synt-hp?code=O32861

The ones they use are surely not Moebius, so they are even much cheaper than the 5£/2ml...

[leonduchateau 7]

Oh, thanks! Always wondered… 

[Intransit 2]

Good info here. In my other hobbies (dress shoes, PC building, tea) I've always tried to straddle the "value" options, meaning something within the 75% or so of maximum price that gave me the best bang for the buck. There's always a great deal to be had matching cost with quality for certain high quality shoemakers, or a particular generation of computer hardware, or even varietals of tea. 

Hoping that ~HQ reps can add a similar dimension to my other hobbies, and enrich the gen watch collection that I already enjoy!

[WaGwan 1]

On 24/03/2010 at 15:29, KBH said:

I got this post from one of the other forums (with full permission of the owner) and thought it was worth posting here. This is from Shroomfarmer on Rep Geek and hopefully he will be coming along to say hello soon.

 

 

Expectations of a Replica Watch

 

Since I have joined this forum last month, I have noticed a reoccuring theme. Dude buys a watch, but it does not meet his expectations for whatever reason and starts to ***** about it. Then follows an onslaght of replies from other members about how the watch is just a rep and there will always be flaws and imperfections. I just want to share some of my quick thoughts on this.

 

It will never be perfect

It is virtually impossible for a replica to be perfect and I am not just talking about the movement. Gen watches and rep watches are made in different workshops, technicians are of different caliber and as much as they try to copy the gen, it will never be the same. I also think it would be similar if the skilled technicians from Gen companies tried to copy watches from other companies, they would find themselves struggling to find the exact materials and processes to produce exact replicas.

 

Quality will not be the same

Obviously there would be differences in the QC processes of Rep workshops and Gen workshops. Do not expect ISO or sixth sigma practices in place. There is always a chance your hands will fall off, your bezel will be loose and your watch might just arrive at your doorstep dead. It does not mean if you pay $700 or $70 for your watch here it would make any different.

 

Customer service varies

So your watch is spoilt, or you are disatisfied and you want it fixed by the dealer, what do you do? More often than not, you are at the mercy of the dealer. He might not respond to you or take a very long time. Frankly he is not obligated to even entertain your demands. The watch did not come with a warranty or any 7 day money back guarantee. Remember these are not legitamate companies. Even if he decides to return your money back, or repair it for you, you would most probably lose your shipping cost.

 

No customer service, warranties and quality control... WTF?

Genuine watchs like Rolex charges 10-20 times the amount of a replica watch. Some of that money goes into a customer service call centre, service centre, marketing, technicians dedicated to just servicing spoilt watches, quality control procesees etc. A rep workshop is probably just a dodgy makeshift workshop with a handful of guys working furiously to churn out as many watches as they can before the next raid.

 

Power of the people

So are you powerless against the dealers? No. They make a lucrative trade selling replica watches on forums like this and trive on good feedback which translates to sales like any other company. That is the whole purpose of this forum, for people to band together and share feedback on good and bad experiences. So we do not have to learn from our mistakes but from others as well. If someone sells you a **** watch and does not take responsibility for it, then talk about it! Buying a rep watch does not have to be a gamble or a hit and miss affair. If everyone gives reviews and feedback of the watches they buy then everyone can make more informed decisions. Rep dealers will also be more responsible for their wares.

 

Reasonable complaints

Sometimes it is clear what defines a reasonable complaint. Hands falling off, dead watches, etc. Other times it is a grey area. Respect the fact that what may be ok for someone like a slightly loose bezel, might be a deal breaker for someone else. It is important that people ***** about these small details so everyone can make more informed decisions in future. If we keep lecturing people about how they should not complain then we will create a culture where people are not open to share their thoughts. Of course, compaints should be objective and pictures, videos should be given to illustrate your point.

Good read for a newbee Me!;)

[Tobbe 0]

 very useful info, Thank you 

[Sliverboy 3]

Excellent...I always say, "If you find yourself getting dissapointed time after time after revieving your rep then its best that you only by the genuine."

[MadChild 7]

Good read and valuable advice