JCFans 0 Posted April 30, 2013 Hello, I recently bought the below watch from TS. The Swiss ETA movement. http://www.timeshops.net/12073-xfro5510-rolex-day-date-ii-silver-dial-ss-ss-41mm-swiss-eta-2836.html The watched came within a week and a half to Canada. Two things I am finding weird: 1) There is no holographic engravement at the 6 o'clock mark of the glass. 2) When you shake the watch, the movement makes funny noises inside the caseback. Are these things normal? Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greyfriar's Bobby 0 Posted April 30, 2013 the engraving at 6 o'clock is usually barely even visible to the naked eye, unless in the perfect light. And often you might even need a loupe to see it properly depending on how good your eyes are! :-) The noise you describe, is it a mechanical, mild "grinding" noise? If so it's probably just the automatic movement which will always make some noise, but if it's overly noisy and grinding then it may have a slight problem, but I'm not the man to tell you what it is! Soz! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCFans 0 Posted May 1, 2013 the engraving at 6 o'clock is usually barely even visible to the naked eye, unless in the perfect light. And often you might even need a loupe to see it properly depending on how good your eyes are! :-) The noise you describe, is it a mechanical, mild "grinding" noise? If so it's probably just the automatic movement which will always make some noise, but if it's overly noisy and grinding then it may have a slight problem, but I'm not the man to tell you what it is! Soz! Thank you, Bobby! You are perfectly right. Now I see the engraving actually . For the noise, it's not the automatic movement. For the movement I can hear it if I press the caseback against my ear-- the ticking sweeping sound. The sound I brought up is when you actually shake the watch and once you stop shaking there is a residual sound like a spring spinning that stops a few seconds after you stop shaking. Is this normal for a replica? Also, not sure what the caseback is made from but when the bracelet hits it, it makes this very cheap-sounding sound like a tin can or something. Is this also normal for a replica? The Rolex I bought from TS is apparently the highest grade one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J.Eric 693 Posted May 1, 2013 The noise you are hearing might be the rotor spinning. I can here my rotor spin for a second or two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RussP 22,603 Posted May 1, 2013 Spring like sounds is the auto-winding mechanism. You've never 'heard' an automatic watch 'whine' or 'zing' before? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roti 0 Posted May 1, 2013 anche io ho comperato da TS,e il rumore che si sente è normale per rolex automatico.hai provato a controllare se tiene il tempo esatto. il mio è perfetto(DAYDATE II) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCFans 0 Posted May 1, 2013 Spring like sounds is the auto-winding mechanism. You've never 'heard' an automatic watch 'whine' or 'zing' before? The noise you are hearing might be the rotor spinning. I can here my rotor spin for a second or two. Hi Russ and Eric, I have never heard of such things before-- pardon my newbieness. Are you saying that: 1) This is normal for a replica, or 2) This is how the original sounds like when shaken? or 3) both? Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyr 4 Posted May 1, 2013 There is a half disk shaped rotor inside your watch that spins when you move your arm. This spinning rotor winds the spring in your watch which in turn moves the gears that drive the hands. It is normal to hear some noise after moving the watch vigorously as the rotor is still spinning. You are most likely used to a quartz watch that does not make this sound. Even gens make some noise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LightGeek 25 Posted May 1, 2013 Just to catch this now.... If you don't wear the watch for about two days consecutively, it will stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J.Eric 693 Posted May 1, 2013 Looks something like this... And yes, #3 is correct Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCFans 0 Posted May 1, 2013 Just to catch this now.... If you don't wear the watch for about two days consecutively, it will stop. There is a half disk shaped rotor inside your watch that spins when you move your arm. This spinning rotor winds the spring in your watch which in turn moves the gears that drive the hands. It is normal to hear some noise after moving the watch vigorously as the rotor is still spinning. You are most likely used to a quartz watch that does not make this sound. Even gens make some noise. Thank you, everyone! :D One more thing, not sure what the caseback is made from but when the bracelet hits it, it makes this very cheap-sounding sound like a tin can or something. Is this also normal for a replica? The Rolex I bought from TS is apparently the highest grade one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCFans 0 Posted May 1, 2013 Looks something like this... And yes, #3 is correct Okay I know what this looks like-- thank you! I have a replica JLC in a clear caseback that shows this half-moon thing as well. When I swing the watch it makes this heavy sound like an axe is being swung hahaha. Is that supposed to sound like that? Albeit it was a cheap replica of $100 or so :P. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J.Eric 693 Posted May 1, 2013 Yes they will all make noise. some more than others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
camdensq 0 Posted May 1, 2013 Hi JCFans Be careful, it seems you bought your watch on a scam site of TS. TS is a trusted dealer but the good URL adress of its site is http://timesshop.net/ not http://timeshops.net A genuine swiss ETA mvt is not noisy ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LightGeek 25 Posted May 1, 2013 Hi JCFansBe careful, it seems you bought your watch on a scam site of TS. TS is a trusted dealer but the good URL adress of its site is http://timesshop.net/ not http://timeshops.net A genuine swiss ETA mvt is not noisy ... They're both valid for the same vendor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCFans 0 Posted May 2, 2013 Yes they will all make noise. some more than others. Thanks, Eric. Is this like this also in the gen? Sorry for the noob question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J.Eric 693 Posted May 2, 2013 The pic above is a Gen 2824.2 and you can hear the rotor, but just barely. I think it is because of the construction of the AP Diver v3.5. I have a couple of different Rolex with Gen Swiss movements. My DateJust is the loudest, while my DSSD is quieter and my Yacht-Master is somewhere in the middle. The other kicker is that when I received those watches, I oiled the rotor bearings. I also have a cheap 21j movement that I can hear the rotor spin at arms length. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCFans 0 Posted May 2, 2013 The pic above is a Gen 2824.2 and you can hear the rotor, but just barely. I think it is because of the construction of the AP Diver v3.5. I have a couple of different Rolex with Gen Swiss movements. My DateJust is the loudest, while my DSSD is quieter and my Yacht-Master is somewhere in the middle. The other kicker is that when I received those watches, I oiled the rotor bearings. I also have a cheap 21j movement that I can hear the rotor spin at arms length. Thank you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites