Vonlichtenstein 0 Posted June 18, 2013 Thanks for taking the time to share! Very useful read! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J!m 289 Posted June 18, 2013 I am guessing everyone is looking at the current crop of subs (with sapphire on the bezel insert) and comparing it here. What I am more interested in is the earlier versions- say 1985 and up when theyfirst went to sapphire crystals. At that time the pearl was still plastic and I am curious how these measure up to those gen inserts. Does anyone have any experience in this regard? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffw69 0 Posted June 18, 2013 WHY...?????? Why Indeed? According to Freud, If parents are too strict or begin toilet training too early, Freud believed that an anal-retentive personality develops in which the individual is stringent, orderly, rigid and obsessive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyKrush 16 Posted June 18, 2013 WHY...?????? Why Indeed? According to Freud, If parents are too strict or begin toilet training too early, Freud believed that an anal-retentive personality develops in which the individual is stringent, orderly, rigid and obsessive. That or they end up with an LV fetish... Tis true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffw69 0 Posted June 18, 2013 WHY...?????? Why Indeed? According to Freud, If parents are too strict or begin toilet training too early, Freud believed that an anal-retentive personality develops in which the individual is stringent, orderly, rigid and obsessive. That or they end up with an LV fetish... Tis true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
watchgeek1 0 Posted June 18, 2013 SSTEEL - other way round I guess, i.e. taking the Clark pearl and putting it into the OF insert. But I'm not going to do that because of the size issues with TC's bezel. I'm too much of a cheap skate to buy a bezel on top of everything else. Man, I really want that sub to arrive. I don't have any info on older inserts, I'm just focused on the 16610 inserts because that's what I'm getting. And is for the "why" questions... I'm just giving back to the community! It's also fun to see the variations in these parts. I expected to get at least a couple that were the same (i.e. someone resold something from somewhere else) but no, they're all different... If you want to see someone with a true obsession, and you haven't been there already, check out TC's blog http://blog.tc-sub.com/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amit 72 Posted June 18, 2013 A couple photos of a gen just pulled off the web. Not sure what rolex model exactly.... Swiss pube? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnoblin 0 Posted June 18, 2013 I bought a gen insert, I'm just afraid of trying to fit it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SSTEEL 0 Posted June 19, 2013 SSTEEL - other way round I guess, i.e. taking the Clark pearl and putting it into the OF insert. But I'm not going to do that because of the size issues with TC's bezel. I'm too much of a cheap skate to buy a bezel on top of everything else. Man, I really want that sub to arrive. Cheers, me too man! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Savi 0 Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) Excellent comparisons, thanks for taking the time to do this for us, it's much appreciated. This definitely needs to be stickied! Edited June 24, 2013 by Savi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
watchgeek1 0 Posted June 25, 2013 Thanks... Could not resist purchasing another insert... Another update to come but will probably be in a couple of weeks as I have a lot of travel for work coming up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J!m 289 Posted June 25, 2013 What make is the new addition? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
watchgeek1 0 Posted June 26, 2013 jandkwatches on ebay - was put on a TC sub recently and fit well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SB56667 155 Posted June 26, 2013 +1 on the call for the sticky! Thanks for the time and effort...I've been lazily trying to do this comparison myself, and you just saved me hours! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jan-mj 0 Posted June 26, 2013 thx for sharing this! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J!m 289 Posted June 27, 2013 Eager to see the new comparison on these... I think a TC is on the horizon for me. I realized if I buy a less expensive one, I will spend more than the TC cost to get it up to par. So, it just makes sense. I may have to go gen on the insert just because the watch deserves it, but if there is a more economical option (because I kill the inserts) then I'm all for it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
watchgeek1 0 Posted June 27, 2013 There's a good discussion in the TC forum about gen inserts and whether they fit the LV sub or not. There isn't a clear conclusion on what the issue is, could be manufacturing variance for example, or maybe the gen LV insert is slightly smaller than the regular 16610. But you can always buy an aftermarket bezel that will take the 16610 gen insert and a few people are doing that. I'm going to measure the bezel on mine when it arrives but TC says it will be a little while yet. But my biggest anticipation is for TC's insert... Can't wait to see how that turns out... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SSTEEL 0 Posted June 27, 2013 But my biggest anticipation is for TC's insert... Can't wait to see how that turns out... Likewise, from what I hear its pretty darn spot on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
watchgeek1 0 Posted July 4, 2013 The J&K insert turned up today. And my wife said "what have you got another one for?" Anyway, here's a teaser - the pearl is quite good (lume not so much) but the paint job is bit all over the place in terms of centering. About to go on some business travel, so I'll do a proper comparison when I get back at the end of next week. watchgeek1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diegosaenz 0 Posted July 4, 2013 Excellent watchgeek! you are truly a geek, looking forward to your new comparison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnoblin 0 Posted August 10, 2013 (edited) LV J&K insert fits without any sort of press or sanding needed, I was able to literally snap it in with my fingers the way TC does it in his video. I ordered the LN (black) insert as well but it had a defect with the pearl where the lume was uneven and not applied in one corner. Edited August 10, 2013 by johnnoblin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
presence00 0 Posted August 19, 2013 Clark vs J&K, with the intent to shove a watchmaterial pearl in... any suggestions? Danke! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnoblin 0 Posted August 22, 2013 LN Insert from J&K does not properly fit in the TC LV case. Interior diameter is not large enough, bezel will not turn. Also, nearly impossible to get back off again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
presence00 0 Posted August 23, 2013 Thanks. I have a clark in the way to try Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites