Planemo 0 Posted July 6, 2013 Bear in mind that ALL no date sub ceramics from BP at the moment have no space between 'OFFICIALLY' and 'CERTIFIED'. This is a very obvious and easy to see flaw IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
live1 0 Posted July 6, 2013 Bear in mind that ALL no date sub ceramics from BP at the moment have no space between 'OFFICIALLY' and 'CERTIFIED'. This is a very obvious and easy to see flaw IMO.wrong bp no date sub dial is updated now same as gen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCRich 13,751 Posted July 6, 2013 Nice watch but with a lot of flaws: - incorrect CG shape - incorrect case shape, it's from GMT - incorrect indexes on the dial - fat hour hand RG Do you pull the wings off flies and burn ants with magnifying glasses. Geeze what a buzzkill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heisenberg 0 Posted July 6, 2013 Nice watch but with a lot of flaws: - incorrect CG shape - incorrect case shape, it's from GMT - incorrect indexes on the dial - fat hour hand RG Do you pull the wings off flies and burn ants with magnifying glasses. Geeze what a buzzkill. I think it's good for people to point out and discuss flaws. I'm not saying people shouldn't buy because of them but its nice to know what flaws are present in each offering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUSH2112 11 Posted July 6, 2013 Gorgeous watch. Don't let imperfections that almost no one would notice stop you from enjoying your watch. Not even the gens are all perfect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Planemo 0 Posted July 6, 2013 Bear in mind that ALL no date sub ceramics from BP at the moment have no space between 'OFFICIALLY' and 'CERTIFIED'. This is a very obvious and easy to see flaw IMO.wrong bp no date sub dial is updated now same as gen Can you tell me where this information came from please. It is certainly not something that Toro is aware of because he only told me yesterday... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heisenberg 0 Posted July 6, 2013 Bear in mind that ALL no date sub ceramics from BP at the moment have no space between 'OFFICIALLY' and 'CERTIFIED'. This is a very obvious and easy to see flaw IMO.wrong bp no date sub dial is updated now same as gen Can you tell me where this information came from please. It is certainly not something that Toro is aware of because he only told me yesterday... Flaw does seem to be corrected on the one listed on the PC site: http://www.p-cls.com/rlss00128-114060-2012-nodate-p-13581.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
live1 0 Posted July 6, 2013 its been fixed for a couple.months now.andrew josh all dealers have them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
live1 0 Posted July 6, 2013 look at the thread at repgeek with all the pics Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Planemo 0 Posted July 7, 2013 Guys, many thanks for this. I am not doubting you but can you provide a direct link to any images so I can forward it to Toro? I have looked on the PC website and cant find any no date subs. I'm not a member of repgeek either, although I will look to signing up if its the only source of no date BP images. Cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT88 1 Posted July 7, 2013 Here you go, a qc pic from a guy in rg Talk about O.c.d... Sent from my Bezel using 116610 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Planemo 0 Posted July 7, 2013 Cheers TT, nice one! I will throw this Toro's way and see what he says Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCRich 13,751 Posted July 7, 2013 Nice watch but with a lot of flaws: - incorrect CG shape - incorrect case shape, it's from GMT - incorrect indexes on the dial - fat hour hand RG Do you pull the wings off flies and burn ants with magnifying glasses. Geeze what a buzzkill. I think it's good for people to point out and discuss flaws. I'm not saying people shouldn't buy because of them but its nice to know what flaws are present in each offering. Indeed, when I've bought a watch the first thing I want someone to do is point out every tiny flaw. That is why I buy reps you know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heisenberg 0 Posted July 7, 2013 Nice watch but with a lot of flaws: - incorrect CG shape - incorrect case shape, it's from GMT - incorrect indexes on the dial - fat hour hand RG Do you pull the wings off flies and burn ants with magnifying glasses. Geeze what a buzzkill. I think it's good for people to point out and discuss flaws. I'm not saying people shouldn't buy because of them but its nice to know what flaws are present in each offering. Indeed, when I've bought a watch the first thing I want someone to do is point out every tiny flaw. That is why I buy reps you know. This is a thread posted in the reviews section to be fair. Is this not the best place for flaws to be discussed? Isn't discussing flaws conducive to them being addressed? Surely this helps to improve quality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShovelnTC 31 Posted July 7, 2013 M, Nice watch, You will always get guys pointing out the flaws and tells but although informative and enlightening I don't believe that getting these comments heightens the experience of owning a rep. ALL reps will have these issues but unless using a lupe or at least having the watch in your hand close to your eyes no-one including yourself will notice. It's hard enough trying to see someones watch dial at all during normal day to day activities let alone being able to see flaws from across the bar. Your watch is a beautiful thing so enjoy it for what it is. Mark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tzsteve 23 Posted July 7, 2013 Lovely watch... Enjoy wearing it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diegosaenz 0 Posted July 7, 2013 It looks pretty darn good to me, that is all I care. A few days ago I was looking into a 1680 and I started looking at dials and how the "s" are different then I thought. Nobody is ever going to get that close to the watch! Who gives a shit! Enjoy your new watch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heisenberg 0 Posted July 7, 2013 M, Nice watch, You will always get guys pointing out the flaws and tells but although informative and enlightening I don't believe that getting these comments heightens the experience of owning a rep. ALL reps will have these issues but unless using a lupe or at least having the watch in your hand close to your eyes no-one including yourself will notice. It's hard enough trying to see someones watch dial at all during normal day to day activities let alone being able to see flaws from across the bar. Your watch is a beautiful thing so enjoy it for what it is. Mark. I still think it helps people to choose on a particular factory's offering or to decide if they can live with the flaws or not. Some watches are closer to gen than offers. All this helps people decide what to buy. How can that be bad? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diegosaenz 0 Posted July 7, 2013 (edited) M, Nice watch, You will always get guys pointing out the flaws and tells but although informative and enlightening I don't believe that getting these comments heightens the experience of owning a rep. ALL reps will have these issues but unless using a lupe or at least having the watch in your hand close to your eyes no-one including yourself will notice. It's hard enough trying to see someones watch dial at all during normal day to day activities let alone being able to see flaws from across the bar. Your watch is a beautiful thing so enjoy it for what it is. Mark. I still think it helps people to choose on a particular factory's offering or to decide if they can live with the flaws or not. Some watches are closer to gen than offers. All this helps people decide what to buy. How can that be bad? Because the guy already bought the watch! If he wanted feedback on how good or bad his watch is then he would have asked for it. That's what reviews and comparison threads are for. For all I know we are into replicas because we don't want to pay premium for a gen or can't afford one, we aren't in replicas to have people tell us what are their flaws. I know I don't want someone telling me how bad my watch is. My two cents. Edited July 7, 2013 by diegosaenz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heisenberg 0 Posted July 7, 2013 It looks pretty darn good to me, that is all I care. A few days ago I was looking into a 1680 and I started looking at dials and how the "s" are different then I thought. Nobody is ever going to get that close to the watch! Who gives a shit! Enjoy your new watch I think everyone sees this differently but for me I see reps as an art form similar to an art forger. They are trying to get as close to gen as possible. If the factories weren't attempting this then how come they release new versions where they address flaws. I think I'd prefer them to keep getting closer because of feedback via forums, dealers etc than just to accept that it looks good enough from distance. Why else would people by TC subs for instance. They want the best quality they can get. It depends on your budget of course and what you're looking to achieve. Some people want people to think what they're wearing is real others might not care. Surely discussing flaws help whoever is deciding to buy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heisenberg 0 Posted July 7, 2013 Because the guy already bought the watch! If he wanted feedback on how good or bad his watch is then he would have asked for it. That's what reviews and comparison threads are for. This thread is in the reviews section. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diegosaenz 0 Posted July 7, 2013 Because the guy already bought the watch! If he wanted feedback on how good or bad his watch is then he would have asked for it. That's what reviews and comparison threads are for. This thread is in the reviews section. What I meant is that he didn't ask for someone to review the flaws on his watch for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heisenberg 0 Posted July 7, 2013 Because the guy already bought the watch! If he wanted feedback on how good or bad his watch is then he would have asked for it. That's what reviews and comparison threads are for. This thread is in the reviews section. What I meant is that he didn't ask for someone to review the flaws on his watch for him. Actually I think he did. He said: Cons?: I really don’t know the Rolex brand that well, bought this one on a impulse but I don’t see any obvious issues with it…but I’m sure those familiar will be more perceptive than I am. Sounds like an invitation for feedback to me. Of course people should be respectful in giving feedback though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUSH2112 11 Posted July 7, 2013 M, Nice watch, You will always get guys pointing out the flaws and tells but although informative and enlightening I don't believe that getting these comments heightens the experience of owning a rep. ALL reps will have these issues but unless using a lupe or at least having the watch in your hand close to your eyes no-one including yourself will notice. It's hard enough trying to see someones watch dial at all during normal day to day activities let alone being able to see flaws from across the bar. Your watch is a beautiful thing so enjoy it for what it is. Mark. I still think it helps people to choose on a particular factory's offering or to decide if they can live with the flaws or not. Some watches are closer to gen than offers. All this helps people decide what to buy. How can that be bad? I'm in the "most of them are close enough for me camp" since I am unlikely to be in the company of anyone who would know the difference anyways but I understand some are into getting it as close as possible to gen as they can. There's room for both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sms 0 Posted July 8, 2013 Nice watch but with a lot of flaws: - incorrect CG shape - incorrect case shape, it's from GMT - incorrect indexes on the dial - fat hour hand RG wow I didn't see any of that. A lot to learn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
