HWG 11 Posted September 17, 2013 Ok, a lot of us like to use paypal to pay for reps. There have been many threads on this before. I have dealt with a few M2M disputes lately, and things have not gone well for either the seller or the buyer. Here are some thoughts from me that will enable a buyer to keep his membership here, and how a buyer wont get scammed. (Its not foolproof, but it will help) Sellers: It is stated in the rules here (you know the page... where you click the box saying you read and understood the rules?) that payment by paypal gift is not acceptable. Other terms in paypal also are - sending payments to friends, payments owed, or gift. Requiring these as payment in your sales thread will get it nuked ASAP. It is NOT OK. Also, if you ask for this payment method via PM to a potential buyer, it is my hope that the buyer says no, reports the PM to admin, and you, the seller will be placed on No Sale status. Buyers: Never, ever pay via gift. Should something go wrong, and you want a chance at getting your funds back, pay as if you are buying goods. ONE MAJOR CAVEAT - LEAVE THE DESCRIPTION FIELDS BLANK. No mention of watch brands, web sites or anything. If something goes wrong, and you payed the right way, you have 45 days to file a dispute that may get your money back. Also note,a paypal dispute is a last resort option, as you should have had a mod involved before getting to this point. I'm done on the soapbox for now. All I want to do is help members here enjoy their hobby. I can not ever guarantee success in a M2M dispute, but following some of these tips above will help everyone. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyBlue 538 Posted September 17, 2013 Yup, what he said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nev848 0 Posted September 17, 2013 Great advice lets hope this gets read unlike the sales rules. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheSav 2 Posted September 17, 2013 Don't forget the "don't sell to numpties" rule Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyBlue 538 Posted September 17, 2013 Don't forget the "don't sell to numpties" rule This is also essential! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HWG 11 Posted September 17, 2013 I know there are other threads about it here, but I just got another M2M dispute, and the seller told the buyer to pay as payment owed - seller gets no fees, buyer gets screwed if the seller is dishonest. No numpties applies all day every day, no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyBlue 538 Posted September 17, 2013 I know there are other threads about it here, but I just got another M2M dispute, and the seller told the buyer to pay as payment owed - seller gets no fees, buyer gets screwed if the seller is dishonest. No numpties applies all day every day, no? Its does mate, but the buggers keep sneaking in, crafty they are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wriggles 12 Posted September 17, 2013 I know there are other threads about it here, but I just got another M2M dispute, and the seller told the buyer to pay as payment owed - seller gets no fees, buyer gets screwed if the seller is dishonest. No numpties applies all day every day, no? Its does mate, but the buggers keep sneaking in, crafty they are. You're thinking of sneaky beggars, numpties aren't bright enough to be crafty! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyckid 0 Posted September 17, 2013 Dave, you are a great mod and a very efficient one. As are the rest. Thank you for the tips, for doing what you do with passion and in such professional manner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tits McGee 7 Posted September 17, 2013 Dave, you are a great mod and a very efficient one. As are the rest. Thank you for the tips, for doing what you do with passion and in such professional manner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyckid 0 Posted September 17, 2013 Dave, you are a great mod and a very efficient one. As are the rest. Thank you for the tips, for doing what you do with passion and in such professional manner. Don't be jelly Tits...here's some for you too: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tits McGee 7 Posted September 17, 2013 This is important: Talk to a mod before you even consider a paypal dispute! Talk to a mod before you even consider a paypal dispute! Talk to a mod before you even consider a paypal dispute! Talk to a mod before you even consider a paypal dispute! Talk to a mod before you even consider a paypal dispute! Talk to a mod before you even consider a paypal dispute! Talk to a mod before you even consider a paypal dispute! Talk to a mod before you even consider a paypal dispute! Talk to a mod before you even consider a paypal dispute! Talk to a mod before you even consider a paypal dispute! Talk to a mod before you even consider a paypal dispute! Get the idea? Just a reminder to: Talk to a mod before you even consider a paypal dispute! Talk to a mod before you even consider a paypal dispute! Talk to a mod before you even consider a paypal dispute! Talk to a mod before you even consider a paypal dispute! Talk to a mod before you even consider a paypal dispute! Talk to a mod before you even consider a paypal dispute! Talk to a mod before you even consider a paypal dispute! Talk to a mod before you even consider a paypal dispute! Talk to a mod before you even consider a paypal dispute! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tits McGee 7 Posted September 17, 2013 Dave, you are a great mod and a very efficient one. As are the rest. Thank you for the tips, for doing what you do with passion and in such professional manner. Don't be jelly Tits...here's some for you too: :lmao: Thank You kid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCRich 13,751 Posted September 17, 2013 Numpties rulez! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyckid 0 Posted September 17, 2013 Dave, you are a great mod and a very efficient one. As are the rest. Thank you for the tips, for doing what you do with passion and in such professional manner. Don't be jelly Tits...here's some for you too: :lmao: Thank You kid. Don't mention it, you my boy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mazz 62 Posted September 17, 2013 Also be cautious if the buyer asks you to leave th cash in a brown paper bag in the men's room in the bus station It's probably Onze trying to lure you into a trap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul-H 7 Posted September 17, 2013 Why do people fuck about like this? Would they do it in real life, face to face? I doubt it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyBlue 538 Posted September 17, 2013 Why do people fuck about like this? Would they do it in real life, face to face? I doubt it. Like what mate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul-H 7 Posted September 17, 2013 Putting watch brands in PP notes, paying as a gift, raising PP disputes at the first sign of a problem etc etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
houndoggie 58 Posted September 17, 2013 if the buyer has a concern that the seller will not know what the payment is for (:rollseyes:) I suggest the SELLER prompt the buyer with a code word in the note line such as: "big black dildo for granny", or "anal lube- 2 gallons", or "xbox game" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted September 17, 2013 if the buyer has a concern that the seller will not know what the payment is for (:rollseyes:) I suggest the SELLER prompt the buyer with a code word in the note line such as: "big black dildo for granny", or "anal lube- 2 gallons", or "xbox game" so I can file a dispute if i received a watch instead of the items listed above? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HWG 11 Posted September 17, 2013 Ok guys, lets get back to topic. This is supposed to be helpful, not a crazy off tangent thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
houndoggie 58 Posted September 17, 2013 if the buyer has a concern that the seller will not know what the payment is for (:rollseyes:) I suggest the SELLER prompt the buyer with a code word in the note line such as: "big black dildo for granny", or "anal lube- 2 gallons", or "xbox game" so I can file a dispute if i received a watch instead of the items listed above? scammers will always scam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
houndoggie 58 Posted September 17, 2013 Ok guys, lets get back to topic. This is supposed to be helpful, not a crazy off tangent thread. not off topic. a certain dealer has me do the same and put random items as notes so that the payment can be referenced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyBlue 538 Posted September 17, 2013 Putting watch brands in PP notes, paying as a gift, raising PP disputes at the first sign of a problem etc etc Thats numpties mate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites