onzenuub 309 Posted November 2, 2013 For the Only Watch 2013 charity auction, Patek Philippe has produced a one-of-a-kind version of the discontinued ref. 5004 in titanium called the 5004T. While Patek Philippe has produced titanium watches in the past, they are exceedingly rare and none that I can find have been produced as part of a series. That means that all titanium Patek Philippe watches so far have been piece unique models. The last that I know of is the Patek Philippe Nautilus 5712T in titanium that was actually produced also for the Only Watch auction in 2007. It yielded an auction price of 525,000 Euros. The 5004T is a relatively small watch for men at 36.7mm wide. In my opinion Patek Philippe's follow-up model to the 5004 was the 5204 from 2012 (that I wrote about here). The 5204 contained the same mixtures of split second chronograph and perpetual calendar complications, and arrived in a 40mm wide 18k white gold case with beautiful oxidized black hands and hour numerals. It arrived just a year or so after Patek Philippe discontinued the 5004 family that was produced for many years. This piece unique model of the 5004 for Only Watch 2013 has some interesting features that you aren't likely to see on many higher-production Patek watches. One thing I really like is the dial. Produced from a solid piece of gold and hand-machine engraved, the dial has a fantastic textured checker board motif in black that mixes nicely with the applied 18k white gold Arabic numeral hour markers. There is also the matter of the strap, which is going to be controversial, but fits the special "one-of-a-kind" nature of this watch. Calf leather with a weaved carbon fiber pattern top matched with red contrast stitching, it looks a lot like something you'd find on a much less expensive watch. That isn't to say that Patek hasn't chosen the best quality strap of this style, but it is something that has been rendered in inexpensive ways too often. Patek wants you to feel as though this is a sports watch, especially with that red seconds hand. In all, the color and textures are quite uncharacteristically Patek Philippe, which is probably the idea behind offering it for the upcoming charity auction. The 5004 never contained a totally in-house made movement. Patek Philippe used and uses for the 5004T, a base Lemania that has a perpetual calendar module by Patek Philippe, and is thoroughly decorated and finished by Patek Philippe. It is the caliber CHR 27-70Q. The manually wound movement is gorgeous and complicated, and the watch comes with both a solid titanium caseback, as well as a version with a sapphire crystal exhibition window. I think it is interesting that Patek Philippe decided to use a 5004 watch as the base of its Only Watch 2013 offering. The movement is something that they freely admit is not totally produced by them. There is nothing wrong with that, but it comes at a time when Patek Philippe is quite militant about keeping details about its suppliers secret and closed. That is a shame because the Swiss watch industry is really a community of quality companies working together, and there is no manufacturer that truly makes everything in-house. Not even Rolex or Patek Philippe. While the 5004T is a strange Patek Philippe, it is nevertheless a very attractive watch. Its unusual nature will make it all that more desirable to collectors, and I anticipate an auction price of at least 700,000 Euros at the Only Watch auction in Monaco this September. UPDATE, with an auction estimate price of between 400,000 - 600,000 Euros, the Patek Philippe 5004T received 2,950,000 Euros at auction (about $4,000,000). patek.com A blog to watch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gran 198 Posted November 2, 2013 Charity aint cheap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BentleySharp 0 Posted November 2, 2013 oh, its stunninng. no rep of this im guessing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sergiiko 1 Posted November 2, 2013 Not very interesting watch at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted November 2, 2013 let me check my piggybank Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DC_ 218 Posted November 2, 2013 I love Patek, and I mean LOVE Patek, but this watch really doesn't do it for me. Perhaps because it is so different to what Patek is usually about. The 5004 is a stunning watch, in platinum or gold with white or black face it's a timeless classic. But this feels wrong, too sporty maybe. Its like a Rolls Royce with a body kit..... it's just wrong somehow! DC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasperB 0 Posted November 2, 2013 I love Patek, and I mean LOVE Patek, but this watch really doesn't do it for me. Perhaps because it is so different to what Patek is usually about. The 5004 is a stunning watch, in platinum or gold with white or black face it's a timeless classic. But this feels wrong, too sporty maybe. Its like a Rolls Royce with a body kit..... it's just wrong somehow! DC I see what you mean, but I guess it's wrong in the same way the Beatles were rubbish, as their respective popularity proves Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DR3M3L 4 Posted November 2, 2013 Ok, I think this is a bargain and bought two. :lmao: Damn if I got that kind of money on my bank account I would buy a lot, but nog just one watch of it :o Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waipio Jeff 0 Posted November 2, 2013 Looks more like a Jaeger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BentleySharp 0 Posted November 2, 2013 Not very interesting watch at all. ... but this watch really doesn't do it for me.... this feels wrong, too sporty maybe... DC Looks more like a Jaeger. Ok, I noticed everyone saying how they don't like this watch for whatever reasons. I asked if there was a rep for this, not just to make small talk, but because if there is, it would be sold today. That's how impressed i am with it. The clean lines. Long thin hands. Amazing. This is what happens when you bring the elegance and sensability of a dress watch to the sporting world. All the features are there, but it doesn't feel cluttered. A place for everything and everything in it's place. This is the sophisticated man's chronograph. Quite simply a masterpiece of function and asthetics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nev848 0 Posted November 18, 2013 A little fussy for me. Looks like they crashed it in to a spare parts bin and this is the result. If it sells for charity then it's achieved its purpose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DC_ 218 Posted November 19, 2013 I asked if there was a rep for this. The answer is no, there's no rep. There used to be a rep of the 5004 but it's no longer available! Here she is..... DC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kleen™ 45 Posted November 19, 2013 Look out for mine coming up as C&R on M2M.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShovelnTC 31 Posted November 19, 2013 I wonder just how wealthy would someone need to be in order to justify spending $4000,000 bucks on a watch? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DC_ 218 Posted November 19, 2013 Look out for mine coming up as C&R on M2M.. You got the rep? DC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted November 19, 2013 I wonder just how wealthy would someone need to be in order to justify spending $4000,000 bucks on a watch? first they need to have $4M Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fetasigma 0 Posted November 19, 2013 to busy for a patek....the reason they gave it away fro charity...lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DC_ 218 Posted November 19, 2013 I wonder just how wealthy would someone need to be in order to justify spending $4000,000 bucks on a watch? I think if you're that minted you probably don't need to justify it, fuck what anyone else thinks. Using some simple maths though, if I consider what's the most I've spent on one watch vs my income, and apply that multiple to this watch price, you'd need to have an annual income of around $300,000,000..... give or take!! DC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kleen™ 45 Posted November 19, 2013 Look out for mine coming up as C&R on M2M.. You got the rep? DC Is that what you think of me: a guy buying reps, because i can't afford the real mcCoy.........tsssssssssihhhhh!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DC_ 218 Posted November 19, 2013 Look out for mine coming up as C&R on M2M.. You got the rep? DC Is that what you think of me: a guy buying reps, because i can't afford the real mcCoy.........tsssssssssihhhhh!!! Nah, I think you buy reps to further your anti-capitalism agenda! Down with "the man"!! DC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kleen™ 45 Posted November 19, 2013 Look out for mine coming up as C&R on M2M.. You got the rep? DC Is that what you think of me: a guy buying reps, because i can't afford the real mcCoy.........tsssssssssihhhhh!!! Nah, I think you buy reps to further your anti-capitalism agenda! Down with "the man"!! DC So now you're calling me a communist. Goddammit - is there no end to the onslaught of insults.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DC_ 218 Posted November 19, 2013 Look out for mine coming up as C&R on M2M.. You got the rep? DC Is that what you think of me: a guy buying reps, because i can't afford the real mcCoy.........tsssssssssihhhhh!!! Nah, I think you buy reps to further your anti-capitalism agenda! Down with "the man"!! DC So now you're calling me a communist. Goddammit - is there no end to the onslaught of insults.... ...................... dick splash :P DC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted November 19, 2013 no bullying please Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
