Pmat 1 Posted December 9, 2013 That 386 is nice but I'd still take the 505 over it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gottahaverolex 0 Posted December 9, 2013 I just ordered the PAM 386 from Kuvarsit (a black DLC) and cannot wait for it to arrive! You will be very disappointed if you expect the 386 to be black. It is a brown DLC and tobacco dial. Zero black in that watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madcatlancelot 1 Posted December 10, 2013 PAM 360 KW version, simple and clean design. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hnic 1 Posted December 10, 2013 i like the 505 tried the gen on yesterday too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martijn18775 0 Posted December 10, 2013 I just ordered the 441 from TrustyTimes. Hope to get it soon. Best looking PAM imho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pmat 1 Posted December 10, 2013 I just ordered the 441 from TrustyTimes. Hope to get it soon. Best looking PAM imho. Yep, very nice. What movement is in it? What coating? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nosferaturussia 0 Posted December 10, 2013 That 386 is nice but I'd still take the 505 over it. Good thing people have different tastes otherwise the world would be a boring place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrmarcus86 13 Posted December 10, 2013 check out the PAM 292 noob as well. It's a Radiomir but a great rep. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pmat 1 Posted December 10, 2013 That 386 is nice but I'd still take the 505 over it. Good thing people have different tastes otherwise the world would be a boring place. Absolutely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jpohl402 0 Posted December 10, 2013 a 292 Rad maybe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stmoritz 0 Posted December 12, 2013 Yea, As soon as (And I mean AS SOON AS) they make a rep of the Panerai 'Tuttonero' I will be first in line with money in hand to buy mine Amen! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nosferaturussia 0 Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) This dealer has the pam438, but it doesn't look like a very good rep to say the least, check this out: Price: $168 MOVEMENT:Asian 21J Automatic CASE DIAMETER: 44mm THICKNESS: 13mm DIAL COLOR: Black dial CASE MATERIAL: Stainless Steel With Black PVD Coated BRACELET: Stainless Steel With Black PVD Coated FRONT GLASS: mineral crystal OTHER: Water Resistant your thoughts? http://www.tswatchlt...033-pam438.html Edited December 12, 2013 by nosferaturussia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hintin 0 Posted December 13, 2013 This dealer has the pam438, but it doesn't look like a very good rep to say the least, check this out: Price: $168 MOVEMENT:Asian 21J Automatic CASE DIAMETER: 44mm THICKNESS: 13mm DIAL COLOR: Black dial CASE MATERIAL: Stainless Steel With Black PVD Coated BRACELET: Stainless Steel With Black PVD Coated FRONT GLASS: mineral crystal OTHER: Water Resistant your thoughts? http://www.tswatchlt...033-pam438.html From the pics it looks amazing.. but.. why is it so cheap? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nosferaturussia 0 Posted December 14, 2013 This dealer has the pam438, but it doesn't look like a very good rep to say the least, check this out: Price: $168 MOVEMENT:Asian 21J Automatic CASE DIAMETER: 44mm THICKNESS: 13mm DIAL COLOR: Black dial CASE MATERIAL: Stainless Steel With Black PVD Coated BRACELET: Stainless Steel With Black PVD Coated FRONT GLASS: mineral crystal OTHER: Water Resistant your thoughts? http://www.tswatchlt...033-pam438.html From the pics it looks amazing.. but.. why is it so cheap? The dials are wrong, the bracelet doesn't have a smooth surface, ... Doesn't look like a good buy to me, the problem is making a ceramic bracelet i assume, although, it couldn't be that difficult in my opinion, there are full ceramic watches out there for prices well below 300$. Just google 'ceramic watch + ceramic bracelet' So it's just waiting for a real good pam386 to appear with some of the TD's, for me preferably Perfect Clones :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LightGeek 25 Posted December 15, 2013 You want a black PAM like the 317 or the composite/etc "brown" ones people are posting? Here are my recent PVD PAM acquisitions... http://www.rwg.bz/board/index.php?showtopic=66782 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McJules 396 Posted December 15, 2013 why not a pam363? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hintin 0 Posted December 15, 2013 You want a black PAM like the 317 or the composite/etc "brown" ones people are posting? Here are my recent PVD PAM acquisitions... http://www.rwg.bz/bo...showtopic=66782 you can't fault me for thinking the brown looks black.. in fact, i've even seen videos where it is clearly black... lol Anyway, I haven't pulled the trigger yet, mainly because I found this one: http://www.kuvarsit.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=32159 Anbody have any experience with that one? It's been "sold out" for a while.. is there another place I can get it? Thanks again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LightGeek 25 Posted December 15, 2013 You want a black PAM like the 317 or the composite/etc "brown" ones people are posting? Here are my recent PVD PAM acquisitions... http://www.rwg.bz/bo...showtopic=66782 you can't fault me for thinking the brown looks black.. in fact, i've even seen videos where it is clearly black... lol Anyway, I haven't pulled the trigger yet, mainly because I found this one: http://www.kuvarsit....roduct_id=32159 Anbody have any experience with that one? It's been "sold out" for a while.. is there another place I can get it? Thanks again PM them. They had a short run a while ago which is when I picked it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hintin 0 Posted December 16, 2013 You want a black PAM like the 317 or the composite/etc "brown" ones people are posting? Here are my recent PVD PAM acquisitions... http://www.rwg.bz/bo...showtopic=66782 you can't fault me for thinking the brown looks black.. in fact, i've even seen videos where it is clearly black... lol Anyway, I haven't pulled the trigger yet, mainly because I found this one: http://www.kuvarsit....roduct_id=32159 Anbody have any experience with that one? It's been "sold out" for a while.. is there another place I can get it? Thanks again PM them. They had a short run a while ago which is when I picked it up. i will pm them..!! i was about to pull the trigger on several watches tonight but drunkenly purchased a babicz spider guitar instead.. however.. if you would tell me the people i need to PM i would appreciate it.. thanks guys! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peteins 3 Posted December 17, 2013 Im also looking for the 386, or the 505, im not sure if they have the V5 in stock, nor do any other dealers, looks to have been a one off in the titanium! The 386 V4 with the seagull p9000 movement looks good too! post on this thread if you hear any good news, I too may pull the trigger if its in stock Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martijn18775 0 Posted December 17, 2013 I just ordered the 441 from TrustyTimes. Hope to get it soon. Best looking PAM imho. Yep, very nice. What movement is in it? What coating? It has the P9000 movement in it. Not sure which coating to be honest.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peteins 3 Posted December 17, 2013 its a "thick DLC" coating Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pmat 1 Posted December 17, 2013 Im also looking for the 386, or the 505, im not sure if they have the V5 in stock, nor do any other dealers, looks to have been a one off in the titanium! The 386 V4 with the seagull p9000 movement looks good too! post on this thread if you hear any good news, I too may pull the trigger if its in stock Recently bought a 505 from Toro. Awesome watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peteins 3 Posted December 17, 2013 Im also looking for the 386, or the 505, im not sure if they have the V5 in stock, nor do any other dealers, looks to have been a one off in the titanium! The 386 V4 with the seagull p9000 movement looks good too! post on this thread if you hear any good news, I too may pull the trigger if its in stock Recently bought a 505 from Toro. Awesome watch. hmm, I think im gonna get the 386, but if I can't find a TD selling the latest version of it i'll get the 505.... decisions,decisions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites