Aren 27 Posted February 25, 2014 This is my (new to me) vintage genuine Telsers Incobloc Antimagnetic Watch. If you haven't heard of it...well you are not alone...neither had I. This is a men's mechanical/hand wind dress watch. Vintage between 1920 and 1970 T.K. Co Made in France with a Swiss movement for the Louis Watch Company NYC Classic Black Dial with Gold coloured Spearhead Markers with Arabic numbers at 3,6,9 and 12. Spearhead gold colored Hour and Minute Hands,with Gold Second hand. 30mm diameter without the Crown. It is a nice size and typical size for an gents vintage dress watches (Pateks are actually this size)...but I wish it was slightly larger. Crystal is domed and looks good, but has some very light scuffing at the 4 position, Stainless Steel Screw Case Back with Serial No 53618 and claims to be waterproof. I like the Swiss Incabloc Antimagnetic Movement 17 Jewel movement, FXW (Louis) on the Balance Bridge Ref: http://mb.nawcc.org/...hp/t-33786.html (Codes for Swiss movements) Seller stated this was an early model, but I would date this watch in the 1940's - 1950's and Etsy auctions has LWC watches listed in that date range. Additionally, the Swiss Incabloc shock protection system wasn't invented until 1934, so the watch is newer than that. Ref: http://en.wikipedia....otection_system Not alot of info at the NAWCC.com It seems LWC may have just assembled watches In NYC to avoid US import duties. The case is Made in France and the movement is Swiss. This watch is keeping perfect time and will run for 36+ hours on full winding. Any comments or additional info is appreciated. Thanks for looking! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatarms 7,810 Posted February 25, 2014 Very cool pickup, Aren. Congrats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aren 27 Posted February 25, 2014 Thank you fatarms. I wish I had better photos. The watch looks much nicer than the photos, especially considering it's age. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wriggles 12 Posted February 25, 2014 Very nice Aren, numerals are very Glashutte-esque. Vintage style is a bit small for my tastes but very elegant all the same Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aren 27 Posted February 25, 2014 Very nice Aren, numerals are very Glashutte-esque. Vintage style is a bit small for my tastes but very elegant all the same Thank you. I agree and wish it was a bit larger, even though I have a small wrist. The good thing is I can see the dial to tell the time. It is very easy to read even with the black dial. When I get a new strap, I will try to post a wristie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kcore 0 Posted February 25, 2014 A beauty Aren, CONGRATS!!! Wear it only in health. As a person who enjoys vintage watches, your Telser, Louis Watch Company watch is very interesting, a bit of an enigma. I hope some of this is of interest. Early trade records indicate that Louis Watch Co had a botique on 5th Ave in NYC where they sold watches and downtown NYC location where they assembled them. The Telser model name is the real mystery! I've provided 2 pics below. One for a watch that was for sale within a "Louis Watch" case. The other pic is from a 1922 trade paper advertisement that gives credence to the company assemblng watches in downtown NYC. I also found a lawsuit for trademark infringment against the Louis Watch Company but no decision was rendered. The action titles below is for a motion to move venue to NYC from update NY, Sullivan Co. Benjamin Hammerman et al., Copartners Doing Business as Hammerman Bros., Respondents, v. Louis Watch Co., Inc., Appellant. Supreme Court, Appellate Division, Third Department, New York December 30, 1958 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
powderfreak 0 Posted February 26, 2014 That's a very nice dresswatch. I just bought my first vintage from ebay, will see how I like it. 30mm is indeed pretty small, do you have a wristshot by any chance? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gB. 0 Posted February 26, 2014 Very cool. Love the dial design. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aren 27 Posted February 26, 2014 A beauty Aren, CONGRATS!!! Wear it only in health. As a person who enjoys vintage watches, your Telser, Louis Watch Company watch is very interesting, a bit of an enigma. I hope some of this is of interest. Early trade records indicate that Louis Watch Co had a botique on 5th Ave in NYC where they sold watches and downtown NYC location where they assembled them. The Telser model name is the real mystery! I've provided 2 pics below. One for a watch that was for sale within a "Louis Watch" case. The other pic is from a 1922 trade paper advertisement that gives credence to the company assemblng watches in downtown NYC. I also found a lawsuit for trademark infringment against the Louis Watch Company but no decision was rendered. The action titles below is for a motion to move venue to NYC from update NY, Sullivan Co. Benjamin Hammerman et al., Copartners Doing Business as Hammerman Bros., Respondents, v. Louis Watch Co., Inc., Appellant. Supreme Court, Appellate Division, Third Department, New York December 30, 1958 I did see some of these, so thank you for posting and for your thoughtful interest Kcore. I had not seen the advert. The watch is extremely smooth running and I agree with Imibcn that the dial looks Glashutte-esque. OldBloke here has an avi that reminds me of this watch. In the past while, I buy vintage and antique pocket watches since they are easy to see and I can actually work on them. Still learning, but the process is slow (at least for me) One of my PWs is in the following thread, with many other truly incredible watches... http://www.rwg.bz/bo...l=&fromsearch=1 If have a PW, I hope you will consider sharing it with us in that thread. The PWs can keep me pretty busy, studying and learning about them, but when I saw this Telser, I liked it and bought it. The Swiss movement is very nice IMHO and I appreciate being able to read the dial. The 1922 advert lists the factory location in Switzerland, so I will be looking at up for more information. Cortland is upstate NY near Syracuse. The worst motel I have ever spent the night in is located in Cortland. Funny now...not then. Thank you for your interest gents and for your kindly thoughts and helpful posts. I will take a few wristies as soon as I can obtain a new strap. I don't have a strap this small. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kcore 0 Posted February 26, 2014 Great - looking forward to seeing a wristie! For the time period, 30mm is pretty standard. Most men's wrist watches of the the 40s - 60s had case diameters the size of a quarter or a bit less without the crown, while womens' wer smaller. The Borel I bought for my wife measures approx. 25mm w/o crown. Aren, when I came across the lawsuit for change of venue and it discussed trademark issues, I did a trademark search for name & mark design at the Patent & Trademark office but didn't find anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baxter 6 Posted February 26, 2014 Lovely watch Aren ...... the number style reminds me of Glashutte which i like very much Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg_r 83 Posted February 26, 2014 Oh that's lovely... thumbsup2: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robin195959 2 Posted March 1, 2014 Hi Aren, Loving this little piece. Agree with the Glashutte comments. I have a couple of vintage(60's) Glashutte, I'll post pics later. Robin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robin195959 2 Posted March 1, 2014 Here's my Glashutte oldies as promised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nev848 0 Posted March 1, 2014 Hi Robin. That's a pair of beauties. Must bring them in to show me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aren 27 Posted March 1, 2014 Here's my Glashutte oldies as promised. Wow Robin...lovely watches. Thanks for sharing. I love the vintage watches. Even though they are vintage there is something timeless about them (no pun intended) That's a very nice dresswatch. I just bought my first vintage from ebay, will see how I like it. 30mm is indeed pretty small, do you have a wristshot by any chance? Congrats PF and I hope you post your watch in the gens section when it arrives. Yes 30mm is small by today's standards. Mine is 32mm including the crown. Thank you for all of the nice comments gents. I didn't know there were responses here. I am still waiting for a strap before I can post a wristie, but plan to post more Pocket watches in Robin's thread asap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frazzle 5 Posted March 1, 2014 I love it! I think I love the movement even more than the dial Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aren 27 Posted March 1, 2014 I love it! I think I love the movement even more than the dial Thank you Frazzle. I love the movement. It practically purrrrrs. The Swiss make such great movements. A simple cleaning and service and they seem to last forever if they don't get dropped or abused. Even the antique and vintage Swiss watch movements are just amazing. Such fine craftsmanship I have had the good fortune to have many Swiss movements and they are fantastic and....ageless in quality if maintained IMHO. Thanks again! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robin195959 2 Posted March 1, 2014 Hi Robin. That's a pair of beauties. Must bring them in to show me.'as the actress said to the bishop'Will do buddy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aren 27 Posted March 2, 2014 Hi Robin. That's a pair of beauties. Must bring them in to show me. Said the groom to the bride ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robin195959 2 Posted March 2, 2014 Hi Robin. That's a pair of beauties. Must bring them in to show me. Said the groom to the bride ! As the man in the orthopedic shoes said: " I stand corrected" :-) Robin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aren 27 Posted March 2, 2014 Hi Robin. That's a pair of beauties. Must bring them in to show me. Said the groom to the bride ! As the man in the orthopedic shoes said: " I stand corrected" :-) Robin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robin195959 2 Posted March 3, 2014 Hi Robin. That's a pair of beauties. Must bring them in to show me. Said the groom to the bride ! As the man in the orthopedic shoes said: " I stand corrected" :-) Robin Just showed Nev one of the beauties today. Didn't want him getting overexcited!! I'll show him the other tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aren 27 Posted March 3, 2014 Just showed Nev one of the beauties today. Didn't want him getting overexcited!! I'll show him the other tomorrow. :hehehe: well, there is a secret I found to looking for vintage men's gen. watches. I will share it here. Many of you probably already know this, but I didn't. The dial sizes are very small...many are 30mm. My rep Pateks are all about 40mm. I didn't realize men's vintage watches were sooooo small. I have seen lots of smaller men's gen. watches and never paid attention to them. Unlike the past few years when now look at any watch a gent wears. Because of this, when I search for a vintage men's watch, I search "ladies watches". Now, with a new perspective, many I see are obviously men's watches, but true to size for their era. I don't know if sellers just look at watches and see "small" and call them "ladies" or they knowingly list men's watches as "ladies" because they don't think gents will buy smaller watches. I think it is the latter. I don't think ebay sellers of estate items necessarily know when they are looking at a men's watch. I have found some surprising vintage men's watches by looking at what are listed as "ladies" watches. With new insight, vintage men's watches are usually obvious to me from the strap. Vintage ladies watches don't have a wide strap and more often than not, don't have a leather strap. They have small bracelet bezels on either side of the dial bezel to attach to a metal bracelet or at most a very tiny strap. I learned about vintage sizes from the Patek and now use the 30mm size as a gauge in looking for men's vintage watches. So, if you are interested in looking for a vintage men's watch...look at listings for "ladies watches" You won't find a Patek because people search that by name, not gender. You will definitely need to scroll through tonnes of undesirable or truly hideous ladies watches. Still, you could end up finding a really fantastic vintage men's gen. watch of high quality with Swiss movement for very little money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robin195959 2 Posted March 3, 2014 Good tip Aren thanks. The second beauty (Glashutte) I'm showing Nev tomorrow is only 32-33 mm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
