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Ceramic Submariner - is it authentic?

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jeffrsho

I found this for sale locally and I am interested in it but something is sticking out and telling me it's a rep. Can anyone come in and let me know what they think, I really don't want to waste my time if it is indeed a rep.

 

The seller Is willing to meet at a dealer to authenticate it, but conveniently for him he works 8-8 tomorrow.

 

Anyway, here are a few pics that I have of the watch. Any help is appreciated!

 

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lifestyle_ID

I say rep.

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Mariner89

my say is its a rep ... the pearl just looks too big ... but i may be wrong ... also the crown guards look off

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jeffrsho

The pearl is what stuck out to me as well...

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agntkerr

Gen--

 

my bad

 

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lifestyle_ID

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RichardMiami

there is only one really good way to do this.

 

Talk to him and negotiate a price - but only if it is CONFIRMED gen.

 

Take it to a Dealer (not a jewelry store - they have no clue)

 

As them to remove the case back and examine the movement.

 

If it is Rep - he pays the fee (usually about $75) and you go home

 

If it is Gen - you pay the fee and buy the watch.

 

Any other method, including depending on "experts" here working from crappy pics, will leave you wondering.

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jeffrsho

That's not a ceramic gen agntkerr, it looks like the older version.

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jeffrsho

Thanks RichardMiami, you're recommendations are what I planned on doing. I just wanted to get some rep "expert" opinions before I wasted the time doing that to find out it was a rep.

 

 

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JimmyV

Rep. Pearl looks wrong, bezel numbers not thick enough, Rolex crown on dial the pointed arms look longer and the base is skinnier, the space between ft = m not spaced enough, crown guards do look off from the pics but not a clear shot and hour hand looks wrong. All you have to also do is take the back off it'll tell right away if it's a rep or not.

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Daywatch

I´ll put it this way: it looks so "could be a rep-like" even on those small pictures I would not buy it even if it was a gen. And the pics are good enough to evaluate that. TC with gen insert looks better.

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rrussotwo

I wonder if the seller knows (or suspects) it's a rep and is trying to get out of it?

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zero_deficit

10,000% a Noob v2.

 

Only Noob v1 and v2 have that bezel insert font - easiest tell is the 3 on the '30', where it's sorta curved and way too thin. BP and even many cheap canal street reps don't suffer from that problem. It's not a v1 as it has the updated skinny hour hand.

 

Cyclops rainbow effect found only Noob subs too from poor glue application.

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twofake

Lean towards looking for another Sub is my advice.

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sardonix

Canal street shit :)

Also only very very few gen owners would mount a €6500 watch on a $10 nato.

 

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jeffrsho

Thanks for all the feedback, I passed on even looking at it in person. I didn't want to waste any of my time.

 

I'm just going to purchase a gen from Bob's watches, I think that's probably the safest place to get a good deal on a second hand gen.

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zinnboy

Canal street shit :)

Also only very very few gen owners would mount a €6500 watch on a $10 nato.

 

 

Yep.

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Robin195959
there is only one really good way to do this.

 

Talk to him and negotiate a price - but only if it is CONFIRMED gen.

 

Take it to a Dealer (not a jewelry store - they have no clue)

 

As them to remove the case back and examine the movement.

 

If it is Rep - he pays the fee (usually about $75) and you go home

 

If it is Gen - you pay the fee and buy the watch.

+1

 

Any other method, including depending on "experts" here working from crappy pics, will leave you wondering.

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jeffrsho

So I ended up purchasing a second hand from a reputable dealer rather than dealing with shady individuals. I'll post some pictures when it arrives. Thanks again for everyone's input!

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Technit1957

Have you thought about going over to TRF? (the Rolex Forum) and having some of their "experts" give it a look over. Just an idea

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jeffrsho

Technit1957, I passed on this watch and ended up buying a second hand 16613 blue dial s series from a more reputable dealer. Thanks for the idea though...

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ShovelnTC

So I ended up purchasing a second hand 16613 blue dial s series from a reputable dealer rather than dealing with shady individuals. I'll post some pictures when it arrives. Thanks again for everyone's input!

 

Mate wise decision, I haven't bought a high dollar gen yet but if/when I do I will be buying from a reputable dealer or if possible an AD.

 

I really do think that if we can afford a high dollar Gen then we shouldn't be bargain hunting.

 

Congrats or your new watch and enjoy!

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black263

So I ended up purchasing a second hand 16613 blue dial s series from a reputable dealer rather than dealing with shady individuals. I'll post some pictures when it arrives. Thanks again for everyone's input!

 

Mate wise decision, I haven't bought a high dollar gen yet but if/when I do I will be buying from a reputable dealer or if possible an AD.

 

I really do think that if we can afford a high dollar Gen then we shouldn't be bargain hunting.

 

Congrats or your new watch and enjoy!

Some nice second hand gens here. http://www.watchfinder.co.uk/promo/The-WF-and-Co-Boutique

 

They also do a free e-zine (is that really a word). http://thewatch.watchfinder.co.uk/

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jeffrsho

So I ended up passing on the submariner when I went to pick it up because it was so close to my TC v6 that it didn't make sense to buy it.

 

So instead I decided to go with this yachtmaster as it just caught my eye. Here are a couple of quick shots. I'll post some more in-depth shots later.

 

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themannier

Yes, looks stunning ,congrats mate; this yachmaster is great !

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